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Tzu
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There's some confusion of concepts here, I'll give a brief clarification.

In the 70s we got structured databases (meaning the structure of the data is defined, it's not arbitrary) and there were a lot of competing vendors, which resulted in some standards. SQL is a standard language that allows you to write queries that a database server executes (and gives you the results back). Access is one such database product (compatible with SQL), but it's meant for personal use by individuals and runs on your desktop.

There is a whole space of more serious database products like Mysql, postgresql, Microsoft SQL server and most prominently Oracle which are extremely widely used by companies everywhere. This forum stores its data in Mysql and the forum software uses SQL to get it in and out of the database.

But SQL databases, for technical reasons, are basically limited to a single machine. If you have the amount of data that Google has then it doesn't fit on one machine and hence was born NoSQL, a complete separate line of database products where the data is stored on multiple machines.
:tup: thank you.

I guess I'll have to learn it, then. :D
 

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Ragazza

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Jul 22, 2013
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2. Well, she's an amazing girl, and I love her. Fallen in love both with her, her family, and Colombia. It sucks to be so far apart, though, but she's gonna visit me in a few months. And after that I will go back there again. We will keep doing that until we meet all UDI requirements in order for her to come here on a permanent basis. Not the coolest story (bro), I know, but I was never much of a novelist.
Didn't respond to this earlier, but I'm happy for you! Also, I empathize since that used to be my very same situation, going back and forth. We ended up getting engaged/married way sooner than we'd planned. Thankfully we were friends for a while first so it's not like we decided to go through with it after only a few months of even knowing each other.

You think you're going to go the marriage route then or is she going to try to look for work near you? I guess you'd definitely want to visit each other a couple more times first. Good luck to you either way. :)
 

Jem83

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Nov 7, 2005
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Didn't respond to this earlier, but I'm happy for you! Also, I empathize since that used to be my very same situation, going back and forth. We ended up getting engaged/married way sooner than we'd planned. Thankfully we were friends for a while first so it's not like we decided to go through with it after only a few months of even knowing each other.

You think you're going to go the marriage route then or is she going to try to look for work near you? I guess you'd definitely want to visit each other a couple more times first. Good luck to you either way. :)
Thanks!

The marriage route, yes, because it's the easiest way to get her into the country on a permanent basis. She will look for work here, but she needs to learn the language first. Norwegian employers are very strict about that. If we're lucky, though, she may get some kind of lower entry job despite not being able to speak norwegian very well. I've seen it happen, but it's rare. So I must be prepared to provide for both of us, in the beginning.
 

Martin

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2000
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Thanks!

The marriage route, yes, because it's the easiest way to get her into the country on a permanent basis. She will look for work here, but she needs to learn the language first. Norwegian employers are very strict about that. If we're lucky, though, she may get some kind of lower entry job despite not being able to speak norwegian very well. I've seen it happen, but it's rare. So I must be prepared to provide for both of us, in the beginning.
Things are going to plan, then?
 

Jem83

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Nov 7, 2005
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Things are going to plan, then?
Yep. Law (studies) are proving really handy right now, with regards to all of this.

Norway is super strict on letting foreigners in, unless they're from the EU (EØS-området) or refugees. It's a myriad of criteria we have to fulfill, and failure on a single one of those will result in a blatant and firm "no". So we need to be careful, make sure we have it all in check. But so far so good!
 

Martin

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Dec 31, 2000
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Yep. Law (studies) are proving really handy right now, with regards to all of this.

Norway is super strict on letting foreigners in, unless they're from the EU (EØS-området) or refugees. It's a myriad of criteria we have to fulfill, and failure on a single one of those will result in a blatant and firm "no". So we need to be careful, make sure we have it all in check. But so far so good!
It's like a movie script. "He studied all his life for this." :D
 

Maddy

Oracle of Copenhagen
Jul 10, 2009
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Yep. Law (studies) are proving really handy right now, with regards to all of this.

Norway is super strict on letting foreigners in, unless they're from the EU (EØS-området) or refugees. It's a myriad of criteria we have to fulfill, and failure on a single one of those will result in a blatant and firm "no". So we need to be careful, make sure we have it all in check. But so far so good!
The joy of Siv Jensen :(
 

Ragazza

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Jul 22, 2013
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Thanks!

The marriage route, yes, because it's the easiest way to get her into the country on a permanent basis. She will look for work here, but she needs to learn the language first. Norwegian employers are very strict about that. If we're lucky, though, she may get some kind of lower entry job despite not being able to speak norwegian very well. I've seen it happen, but it's rare. So I must be prepared to provide for both of us, in the beginning.
Oh yeah, forgot about the language barrier. At least for me, my husband comes from another English speaking country so there's not a problem there. So does she also speak English, or do you speak Spanish?
 

Jem83

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Nov 7, 2005
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It's like a movie script. "He studied all his life for this." :D
Haha. Not even sure if I would want to see that movie, it sounds pretty boring :D

The joy of Siv Jensen :(
Word.

It's a shame we've gotten the most immigrant-unfriendly government in ages at this particular moment in time. They've already made it tougher on people in our situation. One of the first things they did was raise the income criteria. I will meet those, though, thank fuck. And the processing times for such cases have increased after they came to power, so they don't prioritize it as much as the former government did.

But we'll prevail over Siv Jensen and her goons :andy2:
 

Ragazza

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Jul 22, 2013
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Yep. Law (studies) are proving really handy right now, with regards to all of this.

Norway is super strict on letting foreigners in, unless they're from the EU (EØS-området) or refugees. It's a myriad of criteria we have to fulfill, and failure on a single one of those will result in a blatant and firm "no". So we need to be careful, make sure we have it all in check. But so far so good!
Same with here. He's been here for almost eight months and they still won't give him the right to stay despite the fact that we're married, have more than enough money in our account, and have a backup sponsor just in case. Been denied multiple times for no reason, so we keep having to pay to reopen the case. I don't get it, because we hired a lawyer and we/he's doing everything by the book. Hopefully it's easier for you.
 

Jem83

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Nov 7, 2005
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Oh yeah, forgot about the language barrier. At least for me, my husband comes from another English speaking country so there's not a problem there. So does she also speak English, or do you speak Spanish?
She speaks english fluently. I suck at spanish. Had a lot of fun with that, when I met her family, there were many misunderstandings :D

I suppose I will learn spanish eventually. Her learning norwegian, though, is of a much higher importance.

I can never live in another place. My education ties me to Norway.
 

Jem83

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Nov 7, 2005
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I tried in sucky spanish to tell her family about an incident that made me "embarassed". I said 'embarazada', and they all started laughing. Apparantly it means 'pregnant' -_-

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Well, I mean, if I wanna practice law, that is. All countries have their own legal systems. Many of them are very much alike eachother, but to practice law in a country you have to meet that particular country's requirements to practice law there. My education only qualifies me to practice law over here.

There are some big norwegian law firms who have offices in places like London, Shanghai, elsewhere in Scandinavia etc., though, but that's pretty much it.

Oh, and there's of course EU/EØS law, that allows us to work elsewhere in Europe, but I didn't go that route.
 

Völler

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May 6, 2012
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Well, I mean, if I wanna practice law, that is. All countries have their own legal systems. Many of them are very much alike eachother, but to practice law in a country you have to meet that particular country's requirements to practice law there. My education only qualifies me to practice law over here.

There are some big norwegian law firms who have offices in places like London, Shanghai, elsewhere in Scandinavia etc., though, but that's pretty much it.

Oh, and there's of course EU/EØS law, that allows us to work elsewhere in Europe, but I didn't go that route.
I see. It must be frustrating that the system is that rigid.
 

Jem83

maitre'd at Canal Bar
Nov 7, 2005
22,870
Same with here. He's been here for almost eight months and they still won't give him the right to stay despite the fact that we're married, have more than enough money in our account, and have a backup sponsor just in case. Been denied multiple times for no reason, so we keep having to pay to reopen the case. I don't get it, because we hired a lawyer and we/he's doing everything by the book. Hopefully it's easier for you.
Oh, fuck. I really hope it works out in the end, for you guys!

And thanks. We're expecting a bumpy ride, too, but Norway better think twice before they start fucking with me.

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If I meet all the criteria, I expect to have this sorted out, and will take no bullshit from them.

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I see. It must be frustrating that the system is that rigid.
Well, there are good reasons for that. And besides, I love it here, so there's no problem!
 

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