WΏΏdy?

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Dec 23, 2005
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Aite, so we had a useless piece of land in the middle of some mountains which was turned into a farm land a lot of years ago. In India what usually happens in cases like these is you rent out your land to a farmer and his family and and he farms whatever he wants and give you 25% with each harvest and keeps the rest.
Our caretaker farmer's family was 3 peeps strong, his wife died then his son eventually got into college and outta family business and a couple of years ago the last man standing fell as well. I never understood why he stuck with us since the fam was useless as every monsoon most of the land including the farm would be flooded, reason being it was smack in the middle of some hills and mountains and the water that was running down flooded everything in its path. He had even stopped farming for 5 years or so and let nature take over the land.
Now i needed some money to take care of a few things which wasnt much but the land was being wasted anyways. So i stuck a deal with one of my friends from school days who owns a brickyard and also into digging out other raw material needed for construction. What he told me was that he would buy the farm soil form my land, the money i was getting wasnt much but took care of a few little things here and there. I gave him 6 acres to dig and within a couple of months he emptied every pound of soil he could get outta it. Even the hard soil that folllows the soft layer. They stopped when they hit bedrock, then he said he would like to dig that too since he can find a use for it.
Eventually, when i went there last year in summers it was a 6 acre land turned into a a 15-20 ft (not sure exactly how deep) deep pit. Its looked like a meteoroid fell there or something. Long story short and skipping a lot, it rained hard for last 2 monsoons and all the water that would flood the whole massive area instead filled up the hole these leachers dug. It turned into a artificial lake cept that since it did not exist before there was no aquatic life in it.

I want to turn it into a habitat, introduce life and fishes there. Its difficult to extablish a habitat for some ornamental fishes and those with huge market value (learned it from my time in china) because the already native fish is better adapted to the once you try to introduce and hence they dont survive. Here i might not have this problem since this is basically a clean slate every fish would be starting with.

I know a artificial reef forms in salt water, what i wanna know if what happens if i dump tons of waste furniture or vehicles into this lake? will it turn the water poisionous making it unfit for life? or will it be helpful for the fishes imma introduce to adapt since there's gonna be places to hide and nest?

How can i make this epic mistake useful?
 

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Aite, so we had a useless piece of land in the middle of some mountains which was turned into a farm land a lot of years ago. In India what usually happens in cases like these is you rent out your land to a farmer and his family and and he farms whatever he wants and give you 25% with each harvest and keeps the rest.
Our caretaker farmer's family was 3 peeps strong, his wife died then his son eventually got into college and outta family business and a couple of years ago the last man standing fell as well. I never understood why he stuck with us since the fam was useless as every monsoon most of the land including the farm would be flooded, reason being it was smack in the middle of some hills and mountains and the water that was running down flooded everything in its path. He had even stopped farming for 5 years or so and let nature take over the land.
Now i needed some money to take care of a few things which wasnt much but the land was being wasted anyways. So i stuck a deal with one of my friends from school days who owns a brickyard and also into digging out other raw material needed for construction. What he told me was that he would buy the farm soil form my land, the money i was getting wasnt much but took care of a few little things here and there. I gave him 6 acres to dig and within a couple of months he emptied every pound of soil he could get outta it. Even the hard soil that folllows the soft layer. They stopped when they hit bedrock, then he said he would like to dig that too since he can find a use for it.
Eventually, when i went there last year in summers it was a 6 acre land turned into a a 15-20 ft (not sure exactly how deep) deep pit. Its looked like a meteoroid fell there or something. Long story short and skipping a lot, it rained hard for last 2 monsoons and all the water that would flood the whole massive area instead filled up the hole these leachers dug. It turned into a artificial lake cept that since it did not exist before there was no aquatic life in it.

I want to turn it into a habitat, introduce life and fishes there. Its difficult to extablish a habitat for some ornamental fishes and those with huge market value (learned it from my time in china) because the already native fish is better adapted to the once you try to introduce and hence they dont survive. Here i might not have this problem since this is basically a clean slate every fish would be starting with.

I know a artificial reef forms in salt water, what i wanna know if what happens if i dump tons of waste furniture or vehicles into this lake? will it turn the water poisionous making it unfit for life? or will it be helpful for the fishes imma introduce to adapt since there's gonna be places to hide and nest?

How can i make this epic mistake useful?
Don't toss in furniture and vehicles, just yet. Toss in rocks and logs. Also, research the species of fish and determine if they prefer cavernous or grass habitat. If you toss in too much stuff too soon, you could end up killing the lake.

Also, you need to determine if the bottom is clay or bedrock, to determine the type of bottom fish you want to use and determine the O2 content to decide whether or not you need to aerate. It would probably be beneficial to suit up and scope the lake out yourself to determine current terrain, vegetation, and get a general idea of what need to be done.
 

WΏΏdy?

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Dec 23, 2005
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Don't toss in furniture and vehicles, just yet. Toss in rocks and logs. Also, research the species of fish and determine if they prefer cavernous or grass habitat.
I need to find a way to hire a professional, find a way to hire him without having to pay anything to him :p Ya know do it the Marotta way (convince him of being part of a special "project")

What i done know is what guy i need, a geology professor? a fisherman? a bio expert?
 

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I need to find a way to hire a professional, find a way to hire him without having to pay anything to him :p Ya know do it the Marotta way (convince him of being part of a special "project")

What i done know is what guy i need, a geology professor? a fisherman? a bio expert?
If you want to raise ornamental fish you probably want both a fish expert and a wetlands expert. Things like carp and catfish you could toss in and they'd do great, but ornamental fish are fragile.

There are companies that specialize in building habitats, you might be able to coax a free consultation from one and then just do the rest yourself.
 

WΏΏdy?

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Dec 23, 2005
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Oh hell no to catfish and carp, from little i know they both are invasive and the biggest problem one can have when introducing other fishes. Those fuckers eat everything that comes in their path.
They are awesome options if im going for commercial farming for consumption.
 

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Oh hell no to catfish and carp, from little i know they both are invasive and the biggest problem one can have when introducing other fishes. Those fuckers eat everything that comes in their path.
They are awesome options if im going for commercial farming for consumption.
Kinda like Dusan with fins?
 

WΏΏdy?

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Dec 23, 2005
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Ornamental fish has high value in some markets and it seems more interesting than raising fish for food.

If it fails then at least me and my friends can catch and eat a pretty looking fish when camping.
 

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Ornamental fish has high value in some markets and it seems more interesting than raising fish for food.

If it fails then at least me and my friends can catch and eat a pretty looking fish when camping.
Yeah, you want to be careful because it's not like the fish will grow up fugly if you don't do it right. They'll just die.
 

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