LowLife

Senior Member
Jan 7, 2011
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The death penalty for trafficking drugs seems a bit extreme to me. What next? Cut your hands off for massbating?
oh man only if i could express myself, then people could have very different opinion about all of this.
and when you consider the fact that it, in turn, dramatically raises the value of said drugs it is not a deterrent. it's just $#@!ed up and so out of touch.
Agree.
 
Apr 15, 2006
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It's not that simple. I can't tell much since @sallyinzaghi; is here too and she will report me :p!
I'd understand if you felt sorry for the girl. But I can't understand why you feel sorry for him when he willingly committed a crime and knew the punishment if he got caught.

The death penalty for trafficking drugs seems a bit extreme to me. What next? Cut your hands off for massbating?
I agree that it's a bit extreme too. But the point here is that he was involved in it despite knowing the risks involved. Why feel sorry when he got what was coming?

and when you consider the fact that it, in turn, dramatically raises the value of said drugs it is not a deterrent. it's just fucked up and so out of touch.
They value money more than their lives. I think that's insane!
 

Kate

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Feb 7, 2011
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His actions indicate the contrary.
It's not that simple, Dhee. I have done things where I have seriously cared if I got caught, but I did them anyway because I was pretty certain I wouldn't. That punishment wasn't death, of course, but I think people internally minimalise the dangers in order to be able to go through with things to get an immediate result they want. If it were a simple prison sentence then maybe I could get behind you, but not when death is concerned.
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
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And he was still involved in it despite the death penalty, which shows he didn't care if he died. So why feel sorry for him?
what is your need to act like a prick now? i've seen you talking about how you're smoking weed and enjoying it. he might've committed a crime even though he knew the consequences of it, but don't tell me that every time you light up you're cool with the fact that your ass might be sent to jail for it. People do things for money, capital punishment for smuggling drugs is incredibly harsh and I can't seem to follow any line of reason where compassion is discarded for a sense of high morality from a safe distance.
 

LowLife

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Jan 7, 2011
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Seriously Sheik not cool. Capital punishment only applies to some people here and that bothers me because these people who actually give the punishment are most of the times involved in these and they just pick on some to say hey we have law here.

Still he should have known better but yet it's sad apart from what he did he was very nice guy people who knew him better always spoke good things about him. Greediness will get him killed unless come miracle happens, which I don't see way out since it went public.
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
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In Indonesia, some terrorists have been given (lesser) sentences than drug trafficers. Fucking disgraceful.

We've got an Australian girl in Indonesia called Schapelle Corby who was sentenced to 20 FUCKING YEARS jail for importing a little bit of weed. Absolutely ridiculous if you ask me.
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
37,882
Seriously Sheik not cool. Capital punishment only applies to some people here and that bothers me because these people who actually give the punishment are most of the times involved in these and they just pick on some to say hey we have law here.

Still he should have known better but yet it's sad apart from what he did he was very nice guy people who knew him better always spoke good things about him. Greediness will get him killed unless come miracle happens, which I don't see way out since it went public.
our personal differences aside,

i really hope somethings comes up which will sway this case away from being the end of your friend. it's fucking bollocks and i'm terribly sorry that it's happening to him
 
Apr 15, 2006
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what is your need to act like a prick now? i've seen you talking about how you're smoking weed and enjoying it. he might've committed a crime even though he knew the consequences of it, but don't tell me that every time you light up you're cool with the fact that your ass might be sent to jail for it. People do things for money, capital punishment for smuggling drugs is incredibly harsh and I can't seem to follow any line of reason where compassion is discarded for a sense of high morality from a safe distance.
My smoking habit affects me alone. His drug trafficking affects thousands at least. It leads to death, poverty, theft and others crimes an addict will do to get his hands on some of that. How can you say that death penalty for that 'incredibly harsh'?

And how can you feel sorry for someone who's gonna die for choosing to get involved in life-threatening activities?
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
37,882
My smoking habit affects me alone. His drug trafficking affects thousands at least. It leads to death, poverty, theft and others crimes an addict will do to get his hands on some of that. How can you say that death penalty for that 'incredibly harsh'?

And how can you feel sorry for someone who's gonna die for choosing to get involved in life-threatening activities?
so you're trying to exclude yourself from the circle that is black market drug trafficking even though you stand firm on the fact that you enjoy illegal substances. furthermore you pay good money for it, which further fuels and encourages the dealers. if there's no market, there is no dealing. i'm not trying to blame you for international drug trafficking, but it does seem mildly hypocritical of you to have such an ambiguous stance on it.

i believe the death penalty is incredibly harsh because he is supplying for a demand which is there. people want to get high and if it isn't legal than it will be acquired legally - disclaimer: i do not want to turn this into yet another pro / against debate for legalizing drugs.

furthermore the example at hand here is of some personal significance for a poster so i think it would suit you to at least wrap your views up in a slightly more sympathetic package.
 

X Æ A-12

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Sep 4, 2006
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I'd understand if you felt sorry for the girl. But I can't understand why you feel sorry for him when he willingly committed a crime and knew the punishment if he got caught.



I agree that it's a bit extreme too. But the point here is that he was involved in it despite knowing the risks involved. Why feel sorry when he got what was coming?



They value money more than their lives. I think that's insane!
If you didn't have opportunity, but had access to drugs, you'd sell that shit too to make money don't kid yourself.

Don't give me some repeated argument about poisining other people. People who are selling drugs are doing it to further themselves just like everbody fucking else in society. the legality should be irrelevant when trying to pass judgement
 

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