As far as I'm concerned Genesis began with Phil. When I listen to the stuff from the 70s it's some kind of lame psychedelic bs. Phil played rock.
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But I guess it all depends on what you are using for a definition of rock, as it can potentially include punk, prog, pop, etc. I think of rock as being more like Metallica.
But is a good tune.
I think this is just a matter of moving the goalposts. After all Elvis was the king of rock and roll and that was zomg radical in his time. Then rock was the step up from that and eventually a complete inflation took place with hard rock, very hard rock, heavy metal, black metal and god knows what else. Point is I would allege that Phil was easily rock in the 80s, no?
Don't remember this song. It's a good one.
Don't remember this song. It's a good one.
But if you say Phil is rock you're putting him in the same category as Rage Against the Machine or Slipknot, which isn't adequate either. That door swings both ways 
For his time perhaps that was considered rockier, but nowadays the margins are not as clear.
Only just? That's a good tune too, though.
For his time perhaps that was considered rockier, but nowadays the margins are not as clear.
Only just?
That's a good tune too, though.
Well pop doesn't stay the same over the years. It just refers to music that is popular in a given time period. Genesis with Phil was much more accessible and commercial, which made them popular. I mean, they went from to 'I Can't Dance'. The difference in the style of music is quite obvious, and you can't say that both are the same.
But if you say Phil is rock you're putting him in the same category as Rage Against the Machine or Slipknot, which isn't adequate either. That door swings both ways
For his time perhaps that was considered rockier, but nowadays the margins are not as clear.
Only just? That's a good tune too, though.
For his time perhaps that was considered rockier, but nowadays the margins are not as clear.
Only just?
That's a good tune too, though.
Oh it's a damn fine tune. Along with a lot of 90's Genesis.
But if you ask me, I'd rather listen to something like .
