What Are You Doing Right Now? (134 Viewers)

[Kate]

Do all of these.

The answer is Phil of course, what a question.

I think I would go with Phil as well, though Peter Gabriel had the far superior solo career. I fear if I asked the kids they would just go "Who?"

Must feel good to be on the other side of the table.

It does! It's the perfect place for someone as mean-spirited as I am.

 

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[Martin]

I think I would go with Phil as well, though Peter Gabriel had the far superior solo career. I fear if I asked the kids they would just go "Who?"

As far as I'm concerned Genesis began with Phil. When I listen to the stuff from the 70s it's some kind of lame psychedelic bs. Phil played rock.

 

[Kate]

As far as I'm concerned Genesis began with Phil. When I listen to the stuff from the 70s it's some kind of lame psychedelic bs. Phil played rock.

I rather enjoy the psychedelic stuff! Theirs wasn't as fun as, say, Jethro Tull (though they're more prog rock), but it was still alright.

As for Phil Collins, I can't think of many who would call him rock

 

[Martin]

As for Phil Collins, I can't think of many who would call him rock

That's just snobbery. What would you call then?

 

[Kate]

That's just snobbery. What would you call this then?

I would call that unfair, that uploader has not made the video available in my country. Which song is it?

 

[Martin]

I would call that unfair, that uploader has not made the video available in my country. Which song is it?

youtube

No son of mine.

 

[Lapa]

I should by a grill!!!

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

As far as I'm concerned Genesis began with Phil. When I listen to the stuff from the 70s it's some kind of lame psychedelic bs. Phil played rock.

I liked their music better when Peter was there. Was much more progressive. No doubt that Phil made them popular. But for me, music counts more than popularity, so maybe that's why I like Peter more.

 

[Kate]

youtube

No son of mine.

I was listening to that on my iPod this morning (actually the song that prompted the question), but I think I would call it pop. If I were going to put it in rock, I'd say "soft rock".

But I guess it all depends on what you are using for a definition of rock, as it can potentially include punk, prog, pop, etc. I think of rock as being more like Metallica.

But is a good tune.

 

[Martin]

I was listening to that on my iPod this morning (actually the song that prompted the question), but I think I would call it pop. If I were going to put it in rock, I'd say "soft rock".

But I guess it all depends on what you are using for a definition of rock, as it can potentially include punk, prog, pop, etc. I think of rock as being more like Metallica.

I think this is just a matter of moving the goalposts. After all Elvis was the king of rock and roll and that was zomg radical in his time. Then rock was the step up from that and eventually a complete inflation took place with hard rock, very hard rock, heavy metal, black metal and god knows what else. Point is I would allege that Phil was easily rock in the 80s, no?

But this is a good tune.

Don't remember this song. It's a good one.

 

[Martin]

If you say that Phil is pop then you are basically equating him with Britney Spears. Are they really the same genre?

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I just realized that Jesus He Knows Me is a satire on evangelism. Wow!

 

[Kate]

If you say that Phil is pop then you are basically equating him with Britney Spears. Are they really the same genre?

But if you say Phil is rock you're putting him in the same category as Rage Against the Machine or Slipknot, which isn't adequate either. That door swings both ways

For his time perhaps that was considered rockier, but nowadays the margins are not as clear.

I just realized that Jesus He Knows Me is a satire on evangelism. Wow!

Only just? That's a good tune too, though.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

If you say that Phil is pop then you are basically equating him with Britney Spears. Are they really the same genre?

Well pop doesn't stay the same over the years. It just refers to music that is popular in a given time period. Genesis with Phil was much more accessible and commercial, which made them popular. I mean, they went from to 'I Can't Dance'. The difference in the style of music is quite obvious, and you can't say that both are the same.

 

[Lapa]

I just realized that Jesus He Knows Me is a satire on evangelism. Wow!

Good for you.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

But if you say Phil is rock you're putting him in the same category as Rage Against the Machine or Slipknot, which isn't adequate either. That door swings both ways

For his time perhaps that was considered rockier, but nowadays the margins are not as clear.



Only just? That's a good tune too, though.

The rock genre is a very broad term. That's like calling Buffon and Knezevic footballers, but not acknowledging that one is a goalkeeper, and the other is a shitty defender.

Oh it's a damn fine tune. Along with a lot of 90's Genesis.

But if you ask me, I'd rather listen to something like .

 

[Kate]

Well pop doesn't stay the same over the years. It just refers to music that is popular in a given time period. Genesis with Phil was much more accessible and commercial, which made them popular. I mean, they went from THIS to 'I Can't Dance'. The difference in the style of music is quite obvious, and you can't say that both are the same.

I do love early Genesis

 

[Martin]

Well pop doesn't stay the same over the years. It just refers to music that is popular in a given time period. Genesis with Phil was much more accessible and commercial, which made them popular. I mean, they went from THIS to 'I Can't Dance'. The difference in the style of music is quite obvious, and you can't say that both are the same.

That's a pretty useless definition though. It means that anything that has ever been popular is pop. Guy who beat two sticks together, Vivaldi's Four Seasons, Bach's church hymns, Elvis, Britney Spears. That's not a genre.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I do love early Genesis

It's the only Genesis I love!

That's a pretty useless definition though. It means that anything that has ever been popular is pop. Vivaldi's Four Seasons, Bach's church hymns, Elvis, Britney Spears. That's not a genre.

Well that's the problem when it's named as "pop".

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Though Kate, I had a major WTF moment when i saw video! :wth:

Gabriel was one crazy mofo!