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They do. Just like women cared about women's rights, gays care about gay rights. It was unjust to deny women equal rights and on the same basis it's unjust to deny gay rights.

You already have rights, you're privileged. They don't. For you to deny them something that you have is wrong, wouldn't you agree?
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Exactly, this is the same type of ignorant attitude that was used 200 years ago to justify enslaving blacks because they were "too stupid to take care of themselves". Distancing yourself from another group of people by calling them mentally ill or incompetent makes it easier to ignore that these are people with the same hopes and dreams as anyone else.
 
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    Exactly, this is the same type of ignorant attitude that was used 200 years ago to justify enslaving blacks because they were "too stupid to take care of themselves". Distancing yourself from another group of people by calling them mentally ill or incompetent makes it easier to ignore that these are people with the same hopes and dreams as anyone else.
    :agree:
     

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    Exactly, this is the same type of ignorant attitude that was used 200 years ago to justify enslaving blacks because they were "too stupid to take care of themselves". Distancing yourself from another group of people by calling them mentally ill or incompetent makes it easier to ignore that these are people with the same hopes and dreams as anyone else.
    Hope you've got a band aid big enough for your bleeding heart.:D
     

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    They do. Just like women cared about women's rights, gays care about gay rights. It was unjust to deny women equal rights and on the same basis it's unjust to deny gay rights.

    You already have rights, you're privileged. They don't. For you to deny them something that you have is wrong, wouldn't you agree?
    I can't argue against that because I simply can't see how can you compare women's rights and their VOICE with gay rights which involves gay marriage and that stuff. Totally different thing IMO. If older people want some kind of a voice and different rights I'd probably understand, but not this.

    Are you saying we are running the risk that our species will become extinct? Again, on what basis? There are more people in the world every day.
    No, I don't think our species will become extinct. Like I said, more people die here. I don't agree with your theory 'we have enough people living, let's legalize gay couples now to stall' because it's just wrong on so many levels.
     

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    Well I'd think that after decades of various civil rights movements people would start to get the picture.
    Gay rights are a matter of a few decades probably, before we all get over it already. I wonder what's next. There's always the next group and the gays won't be much nicer to them than we are to the gays.
     

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    No, I don't think our species will become extinct. Like I said, more people die here. I don't agree with your theory 'we have enough people living, let's legalize gay couples now to stall' because it's just wrong on so many levels.
    That isn't the trend on the world scale.
     

    Martin

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    I can't argue against that because I simply can't see how can you compare women's rights and their VOICE with gay rights which involves gay marriage and that stuff. Totally different thing IMO. If older people want some kind of a voice and different rights I'd probably understand, but not this.
    I think you mean vote, not voice. But anyway.

    Yeah, it's totally different. Everything is different, always. The only thing that doesn't change is that there are groups in society which are treated badly. Always. The nice thing is that we gradually accept more and more of them over time. Jews. Blacks. Women. Gays. It doesn't happen fast, but it happens. Usually not because people change their minds but because old racist people die and new young people are progressive and sympathize with the blacks or the gays that they grow up with and know very well are no different from themselves. I guess you haven't known any gays.

    No, I don't think our species will become extinct. Like I said, more people die here. I don't agree with your theory 'we have enough people living, let's legalize gay couples now to stall' because it's just wrong on so many levels.
    No, we're not doing this to stall population growth. We're doing it to stop the discrimination of a group of people that other people want to pretend don't exist.
     

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    You're right, scientist and doctors don't know anything. They only cure illnesses, built the internet and so on. It's not like they have proved anything. You are the expert here.

    All the advances in technology have come from unqualified people with a gut feeling.
    Yeah...because that was my point.

    ßöмßäяðîëя;2722350 said:
    We ARE animals, dude.
    Ok, I agree.

    I'm not buying this, Dusan got drunk and he's trolling us.
    Why? Because I don't agree with three other people?

    It's like "bow and it shall be given". I don't care if millions support gays, I can't see how that makes me the one who is "wrong".


    ßöмßäяðîëя;2722353 said:
    :agree:

    Prepare to be owned.

    Gays don't only exist in Serbia, bro. Gay marriage has been legal in quite a few countries for years, and prior to that, gays did live together and raise children.

    It's not as though the world said "gay marriage: APPROVED" and fags were like "HEY, NOW WE CAN LIVE TOGETHER!."

    Guys have lived together for years.
    I do know that.

    ßöмßäяðîëя;2722354 said:
    I did say animals do it actually, so you didn't have to bother really.
     

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