Bjerknes

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Obviously, many are not Mexican.


I think one of the larger issues lies in the lax employment laws in this country. If we don't tighten those first it won't matter how many we deport off the streets.
There will always be loopholes.

We need to address the source of the issue, and that's the Mexican border. Not only do illegal Mexicans cross into the US, but also Somali, Chinese, and all other sorts of nationalities. That's how the majority of them come in, through the Mexican border.

Since the federal government doesn't do anything about the issue, the states are trying to deal with the issue themselves, as they should. And if that means another piece of paper for citizens in Arizona, so be it. We are required to have ID on us while driving, entering a bar, et cetera, so it isn't that much of a big deal.

Just like that idiot Rangel said, "there is no border problem." Fine. That means the Federal government wants open borders AFAIK.
 
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    So we need to illegals for business but we need to kick them out for business?

    Stop being so ambiguous with your comments.:D

    no we need those illegal immigrants with no rights for cheap labor to be competitive against european goods which are made with the help of state grants and help, add on to that their contribution to the market as well as to taxes. Illegal immigration is not the problem, crime is.
     

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    There will always be loopholes.

    We need to address the source of the issue, and that's the Mexican border. Not only do illegal Mexicans cross into the US, but also Somali, Chinese, and all other sorts of nationalities. That's how the majority of them come in, through the Mexican border.

    Since the federal government doesn't do anything about the issue, the states are trying to deal with the issue themselves, as they should. And if that means another piece of paper for citizens in Arizona, so be it. We are required to have ID on us while driving, entering a bar, et cetera, so it isn't that much of a big deal.

    Just like that idiot Rangel said, "there is no border problem." Fine. That means the Federal government wants open borders AFAIK.
    It seems dumb to enact Mexican street sweeping laws without making any kind of reform on the corporate end. Where do people think the illegals will go once they've been deported? If they're Latino, they're probably coming back. So you get this endless cycle of deportation and border crossings. More money being blown on problem that isn't being solved. It seems like another War on Drugs to me.

    Not to mention a good way to disenfranchise an entire generation of actual Americans.
     
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    Mexico: America's ABC Taint.
    That's redundant.
    More so if they were Brown??


    On a more related note, i hate it when they call it racism when you want to deal with immigrants.
    No, just that most of them happen to be.

    All illegal immigrants need to be butchered in the streets, that's what I'd do.
     

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    no we need those illegal immigrants with no rights for cheap labor to be competitive against european goods which are made with the help of state grants and help, add on to that their contribution to the market as well as to taxes. Illegal immigration is not the problem, crime is.
    Why is crime the problem?

    I thought the main issue with illegal immigrants was the lower effect it has on the minimum wage and rise in unemployment amongst Americans that it forces unto the economy.
     
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    no we need those illegal immigrants with no rights for cheap labor to be competitive against european goods which are made with the help of state grants and help, add on to that their contribution to the market as well as to taxes. Illegal immigration is not the problem, crime is.
    Disagree.
     

    Bjerknes

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    no we need those illegal immigrants with no rights for cheap labor to be competitive against european goods which are made with the help of state grants and help, add on to that their contribution to the market as well as to taxes. Illegal immigration is not the problem, crime is.
    The flip side of that is the lower wages for legal workers. Get rid of the illegals, drive up wages, drive up saving and investment, drive up more production. But the system doesn't want that... it wants a Ponzi economy.

    But yes, it's quite obvious that the government loves illegals for the cheap labor, along with the government's owners.
     

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