Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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Speaking of trading, fucking Dixie is making new yearly lows again. This is like a worldwide currency devaluation competition and that douche Weimar Bernanke is winning. Sucks to be holding dollars.

Dollar down, stocks up. Stocks down, dollar up. Wait till they converge and we're really fucked.
 

Bozi

The Bozman
Administrator
Oct 18, 2005
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ĵџvє_вãвγ;2176684 said:
already downloaded Ian Brown's My Way,and drinking coffee:coffee:..***..
its very good in places,but a couple of weak tracks, the cover of the year 2525 was unexpected but suits him
 

Dostoevsky

Tzu
Administrator
May 27, 2007
89,229
ßüякε;2176452 said:
Yea, you have to realize that was meant as an add on to the game after you had completed everything. Since you will have a non 0 infamy you will have to redo all nine shrines to reset it and also you won't be able to wear any of the stuff.

I think I said it earlier, but go to youtube and look up where to find Fin Gleam.

You're welcome in advance.
Yeah I didn't think of that before, looked like a cool quest so I started.

That's fucking great! I took it and it helps a lot. Thanks! ;)

ßüякε;2176452 said:
You should just stop the KoTN shit and run through the game normally, don't complete the main quest until you are at least a level 30, go around closing oblivion gates and doing the fighters/mages/dark brotherhood shit, plus freelance quests.

Ask me anything, I have over 350 hours logged onto this game.
Yeah, luckily I've found some older save game where I have only the helmet and no gloves (which means I don't have the damn curse on myself) so I stopped playing that chain-quest. I'll start with guilds, move to arena and continue with brotherhood I think. I wanna do mage first so I can get Shadowhunt (that bow).

Btw did you ever get Hatreds Soul? There's a video on youtube where to get but it's kinda idiotic, can't see much. But it seems it's great, one of the best bows in-game.
 

Ford Prefect

Senior Member
May 28, 2009
10,557
Watching the new ep of south park!!!!!!!!


what do you guys think of this.

A piece of art has no meaning apart from the meaning an audience places on it.

A piece of art had no meaning apart from the meaning the creator puts on it.

A piece of arts meaning is a combination of how the audience percieves it aswell as what the creator wants it mean?

I personally favour the first one, perception is reality.
 

Martin

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2000
56,913
what do you guys think of this.

A piece of art has no meaning apart from the meaning an audience places on it.

A piece of art had no meaning apart from the meaning the creator puts on it.

A piece of arts meaning is a combination of how the audience percieves it aswell as what the creator wants it mean?

I personally favour the first one, perception is reality.
It's an interesting question. Art in that sense screws with the norms of communication, wherein there is the supposition that we communicate via a common semantic reference. I use a term that you and I both know, to say something. Abstract art undermines that, resulting in a situation where you can no longer be certain of what is being said.

And therefore I think there is no "answer" to this. If the communication link is broken or severely degraded then it's the same thing if you would try to listen to a radio broadcast that had so much static you couldn't make anything out. How could you possibly ever establish the meaning? You couldn't. Of course, the great scam is then to say "it still has the meaning that we place on it". But that is gibberish, because now every person is imprinting their subjective ideas onto it and there is no objective standard anymore.

You can make this all the more absurd when applied to censorship.
- Your work of art offends me, I demand that you remove it.
- It's just a picture of the sky.
- I place my own meaning onto it and you cannot claim that this is wrong, I'm merely interpreting. Therefore I am offended and you must be censored.
 

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