What Are You Doing Right Now? (263 Viewers)
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So you're saying that I, one of the most die-hard football fans around, don't have passion whenever the World Cup or Euros come along? The Euro tournament is the second best in the world, and I love to watch it. But just because it's an awesome tourney to watch doesn't mean I HAVE to be supporting one team involved.
What ever happened to just enjoying the game for what it is? You know, beautiful. Why does one have to try to live as a member of that team like the accomplishment is really one of their own? What draws you, as a Venezuelan, to the Italian national team apart from Juventus and the supposed good looks of the players?
As I said, I could easily support Germany in the World Cup after the US, but it's not my country. And the same can be said about most of the folks around the world pulling the same crap that you and others do supporting a nation you have absolutely zero connection to. I actually have German great grandparents, so I'd have more of a reason to support the Germans than you supporting Italy.
I don't mean to be an ass, but then again I do, because this stuff makes no sense.
What ever happened to just enjoying the game for what it is? You know, beautiful. Why does one have to try to live as a member of that team like the accomplishment is really one of their own? What draws you, as a Venezuelan, to the Italian national team apart from Juventus and the supposed good looks of the players?
As I said, I could easily support Germany in the World Cup after the US, but it's not my country. And the same can be said about most of the folks around the world pulling the same crap that you and others do supporting a nation you have absolutely zero connection to. I actually have German great grandparents, so I'd have more of a reason to support the Germans than you supporting Italy.
I don't mean to be an ass, but then again I do, because this stuff makes no sense.
I'm not saying that you aren't passionate about soccer. Do not jump to conclusions or assume stuff. I'm saying that in the US in general the Soccer World Cup isn't that big of a deal. Imagine the Super Bowl -- that's how it gets here the day of the WC final, everyone is watching it and it's something everyone's talking about. And even if your team doesn't make it to the Super Bowl you want one of the whichever two teams random teams to win the most, even if you're not from the state they represent or whatever. You just like how they play.
Uhh, actually, you do choose. I chose myself as someone introduced to soccer at an early age by my father, someone who didn't really care about US soccer, to cheer for the US in '94. I actually understood that yes, I am an American, not a German, even at the age of 9. And I even sparked my dad's interest in the game, eventually, through my love for it. Can you believe that? I sure can't. Most of us are dumbasses over here, but at least we know our nation.
Most of the folks around the world do not fit your description of "family ties" to a particular nation. Most of the time you see folks from the Arab world or Asia supporting sides like Italy, and I can guarantee you that their parents were not making their children say "mama mia pizzaria" at 2 years old. Perhaps some folks that have Italian parents had views pushed down their throat, so I can see why they'd like the Azzurri. That's much, much better than others, no doubt.
I usually don't have a problem with people who don't assimilate. In fact, I try to reach out to them -- yes, even Mexicans. But as a fan of US Soccer, I can't just sit here and allow this shit to happen. We need more support.
Most of the folks around the world do not fit your description of "family ties" to a particular nation. Most of the time you see folks from the Arab world or Asia supporting sides like Italy, and I can guarantee you that their parents were not making their children say "mama mia pizzaria" at 2 years old. Perhaps some folks that have Italian parents had views pushed down their throat, so I can see why they'd like the Azzurri. That's much, much better than others, no doubt.
I usually don't have a problem with people who don't assimilate. In fact, I try to reach out to them -- yes, even Mexicans. But as a fan of US Soccer, I can't just sit here and allow this shit to happen. We need more support.
But that's not even true for me, at least. I hate most of the teams in the NFL. And just because you want the Cowboys or Patriots to lose, doesn't mean you want the opposition to win.
I'm not an idiot. I know full well about the passion for the world's game in other countries. One doesn't need to pull the NFL into this argument to touch base with me; I know far less about the NFL than I do world soccer.
I'm not an idiot. I know full well about the passion for the world's game in other countries. One doesn't need to pull the NFL into this argument to touch base with me; I know far less about the NFL than I do world soccer.
Supporting the US is the rational thing to do(and i always want us to succeed of course), but like i said i just didnt grow up in an environment where that was nurtured. I like your passion and respect your opinion but shoving down people's throat is not the way to go about it. There's a huge difference between a mexican american who just wants the US to always fail(though he lives here) and one who lives like you said in asia or the arab world(countries that will never make it to the world cup) liking italy/france/argentina.
btw i had real good tix for that game 
, but the fire plays their games in the suburbs, some 45 minutes away, didnt feel like driving
, but the fire plays their games in the suburbs, some 45 minutes away, didnt feel like driving
I just don't understand why one has to be passionate about it. One can still have a great time watching football as a neutral. In fact, some times it's the best way to go, because if a team loses you can just enjoy the game for what it is -- beautiful.