It's really very redundant for people to counter "it's free" with "you have to pay for it". If the word free is going to mean anything at all, we have to make a distinction between something that is offered gratis at a certain time versus not.
Of course nothing is free and never has been. When you go get water from the stream you pay in kilojoules. Energy is conserved.
The question is who pays and when. A student facing a massive tuition fee is not particularly well positioned to pay that exorbitant fee. Therefore paying it in taxes when he has an income makes a hell of a lot more sense to me.
I wasn't saying it, in that sense. A lot of people in the US assume Europe pays absolutely nothing to gain health care and go to school. Then when they find out there is actually "a cost", they're pissed.
“We Americans live in a nation where the medical-care system is second to none in the world, unless you count maybe 25 or 30 little scuzzball countries like Scotland that we could vaporize in seconds if we felt like it”
It's really very redundant for people to counter "it's free" with "you have to pay for it". If the word free is going to mean anything at all, we have to make a distinction between something that is offered gratis at a certain time versus not.
Of course nothing is free and never has been. When you go get water from the stream you pay in kilojoules. Energy is conserved.
The question is who pays and when. A student facing a massive tuition fee is not particularly well positioned to pay that exorbitant fee. Therefore paying it in taxes when he has an income makes a hell of a lot more sense to me.
“We Americans live in a nation where the medical-care system is second to none in the world, unless you count maybe 25 or 30 little scuzzball countries like Scotland that we could vaporize in seconds if we felt like it”