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L'autista
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Aye it's wild AF how America markets Swedish Fish but they don't exist in Sweden.
Or French salad dressing.

Of course the French have steak americain...

Just reading about Obama's Piketty moment. Interesting.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...esident-obama-finally-has-his-piketty-moment/

@Ocelot I think you'll find it interesting ;)

Inb4 the ape comes bashing with his automatic fox news reaction that shows limited understanding
Thanks. I can qualify it by saying, yes, that was interesting. :tup:
 

Ocelot

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Jul 13, 2013
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Just reading about Obama's Piketty moment. Interesting.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...esident-obama-finally-has-his-piketty-moment/

@Ocelot I think you'll find it interesting ;)

Inb4 the ape comes bashing with his automatic fox news reaction that shows limited understanding
Sounds great, but how the hell does he plan on implementing them with a Republican congress? Another Presidential executive order?

The US in general are doing wonders the past few years compared to the lethargy of the EU-states, their new framework concerning tax evasion (the one where all financial institutions around the world have to disclose the accounts of their US-American clients or a punitive fee is taken, don't remember what it's called - I think it's even mentioned in Piketty's Capital) is extremely consistent and systematic. A similar legislation is currently being set-up by the remaining OECD states I think.

I mean there's still loads of work to be done, but it's something.
 

Maddy

Oracle of Copenhagen
Jul 10, 2009
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Sounds great, but how the hell does he plan on implementing them with a Republican congress? Another Presidential executive order?

The US in general are doing wonders the past few years compared to the lethargy of the EU-states, their new framework concerning tax evasion (the one where all financial institutions around the world have to disclose the accounts of their US-American clients or a punitive fee is taken, don't remember what it's called - I think it's even mentioned in Piketty's Capital) is extremely consistent and systematic. A similar legislation is currently being set-up by the remaining OECD states I think.

I mean there's still loads of work to be done, but it's something.
How Obama plans to implement this, that I leave to him :D

What I hope to see is an economical and political trend that'll cross the pond and hopefully inspire the stale politicians of EU. How this austerity agenda is still dominating is beyond me, but I guess the old German Hag and her ideological stubbornness is too much of a fight for Renzi, Hollande und so weiter. EU's collective fight against tax-heavens like Luxembourg seems rather bleak. Jean-Claude Juncker is the man to handle that :howler:

Can't wait to see some non-Third Way Social Democrats in Europe. Still have some hope for Matteo Renzi. Hollande is a weakling. My own Prime Minister has the intellectual depth of a piece of cardboard. Ed Miliband is as inspiring as the colour grey.
 

Ocelot

Midnight Marauder
Jul 13, 2013
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How Obama plans to implement this, that I leave to him :D

What I hope to see is an economical and political trend that'll cross the pond and hopefully inspire the stale politicians of EU. How this austerity agenda is still dominating is beyond me, but I guess the old German Hag and her ideological stubbornness is too much of a fight for Renzi, Hollande und so weiter. EU's collective fight against tax-heavens like Luxembourg seems rather bleak. Jean-Claude Juncker is the man to handle that :howler:

Can't wait to see some non-Third Way Social Democrats in Europe. Still have some hope for Matteo Renzi. Hollande is a weakling. My own Prime Minister has the intellectual depth of a piece of cardboard. Ed Miliband is as inspiring as the colour grey.
This :agree:

And our chancellor's opinion in pan-european politics is basically always a copy of Merkel's stance :howler:. Sometimes his rethorics are actually quite sensible and old school social democratic, but he's not really succesful in overcoming the resistance of the conservatives, his coalition partner. The fucked up thing is, even though they hold less seats in the parliaent, the conservative party is effectively more powerful than the social democrats, as they've got the alternative of forming a coalition with the extreme right, which the social democrats reject. And there ain't enough seats for a social democrat-green party coalition, and unfortunately this isn't going to change anytime soon.

I don't really expect much of Renzi to be honest, at least not in terms of changing the political climate in Europe. Just two weeks ago or so he tried to pass a bill that would enable Berlusconi to return to office :sergio:

It's looking pretty bleak in Europe atm, don't really see from where any initiative might come. Germany is firmly in the hand of the CDU (not that the SPD would be a viable alternative really, still caught up with the ways of Schröder). I actually was rather optimistic when Hollande got elected, thought that might kick things off or at least restrict Merkel's influence, but I guess that didn't really work out either.
 

Maddy

Oracle of Copenhagen
Jul 10, 2009
16,545
This :agree:

And our chancellor's opinion in pan-european politics is basically always a copy of Merkel's stance :howler:. Sometimes his rethorics are actually quite sensible and old school social democratic, but he's not really succesful in overcoming the resistance of the conservatives, his coalition partner. The fucked up thing is, even though they hold less seats in the parliaent, the conservative party is effectively more powerful than the social democrats, as they've got the alternative of forming a coalition with the extreme right, which the social democrats reject. And there ain't enough seats for a social democrat-green party coalition, and unfortunately this isn't going to change anytime soon.
Pretty much a similar situation in Denmark.

I don't really expect much of Renzi to be honest, at least not in terms of changing the political climate in Europe. Just two weeks ago or so he tried to pass a bill that would enable Berlusconi to return to office :sergio:

It's looking pretty bleak in Europe atm, don't really see from where any initiative might come. Germany is firmly in the hand of the CDU (not that the SPD would be a viable alternative really, still caught up with the ways of Schröder). I actually was rather optimistic when Hollande got elected, thought that might kick things off or at least restrict Merkel's influence, but I guess that didn't really work out either.
Maybe Jonas Gahr Støre's (Norwegian Labour Party) expected success could be a breath of fresh air. I know that the next leader of the Danish Social Democrats will (very likely) be more of a traditional Social Democrat (in a modern way). In Sweden Stefan Löfven had some (still limited) success with focus on work/labour, public schools and a refusal to accept the Right Wing populism on immigrants and refugees.

But yeah.. Social Democrats is suffering under Right Wing Populism and neo-liberal consensus on the Economy.

I still have hopes. Otherwise I wouldn't an active Social Democrat here in Glorious Denmark.
 

Dostoevsky

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It's looking pretty bleak in Europe atm, don't really see from where any initiative might come. Germany is firmly in the hand of the CDU (not that the SPD would be a viable alternative really, still caught up with the ways of Schröder). I actually was rather optimistic when Hollande got elected, thought that might kick things off or at least restrict Merkel's influence, but I guess that didn't really work out either.
And nothing will change. EU zone is fucked up already, pound and England are doing a financial harakiri for quite a while.

If there's anything positive popping up it's the East.

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TBH I didn't even read the whole discussion. I'm so tired, I just felt I need to write that. :D
 

Maddy

Oracle of Copenhagen
Jul 10, 2009
16,545
And nothing will change. EU zone is fucked up already, pound and England are doing a financial harakiri for quite a while.
The only reason nothing is changing is because nothing is happening. There are plenty of sound economies in EU that could loosen up on their financial strains and spend more money.

Nothern Europe needs to invest while reforming (Scandinavia, Benelux, Germany). Southern Europe (France, Spain and Italy) needs to reform to make room for investment.

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@piotrr remember new top gear season tonight.

Catch it on BBC iplayer, if you know how to change your IP. Oh, wait. You don't :lol:
 

Maddy

Oracle of Copenhagen
Jul 10, 2009
16,545
:lol:

Just found an old thread where I had to save a new danish member who Badass was all over accusing him of being Alvin :lol:

Fuck you @Badass Vidal! We would have had more Danes here if it wasn't for you, you shedevil!
 

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