Ragazza

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Robin Thicke, Katy Perry, Avicii, Skrillex, 2 Chains, etc etc
There were crap artists in the 80s/90s/early 00s too, but I think today we just notice them more because of the internet.

For Justin Bieber there was N'Sync, for Katy Perry there was Britney Spears (yeah, she's still around to be fair, maybe I should say someone like Mandy Moore but she was less popular). And don't forget those cheesy 90s rappers.
 

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GordoDeCentral

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Oh and maybe the problem is the term shelf life? I mean if you are considering such things when you try to create art well then what kind of art is that?
figuratively, a song has less chances of entering music pantheon if played less because theres more stuff constantly coming out. What i do like about our era, is the emergence of really young unsigned artists like this guy right here

 

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Oh and maybe the problem is the term shelf life? I mean if you are considering such things when you try to create art well then what kind of art is that?
Even in literature and art, no man who bothers about originality will ever be original: whereas if you simply try to tell the truth (without caring twopence how often it has been told before) you will, nine times out of ten, become original without ever having noticed it.

-C.S. Lewis
 

Raz

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Dude omg, how do you know what the shelf life of songs from today is? Stop saying shelf life.
I remember when I was younger we had an argument how do you know that britneys hits might last, the same about every other pop star... well we can see how that that went, todays pop music is stamped out conveyer belt shit that has no life at all.

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Even in literature and art, no man who bothers about originality will ever be original: whereas if you simply try to tell the truth (without caring twopence how often it has been told before) you will, nine times out of ten, become original without ever having noticed it.

-C.S. Lewis
You're like the quote guy today :D

Though they care and they do a lot, about charts and money. I'm not saying past artists didn't care about those things, but they had other ideas besides them.
 

Raz

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figuratively, a song has less chances of entering music pantheon if played less because theres more stuff constantly coming out. What i do like about our era, is the emergence of really young unsigned artists like this guy right here

Nice. Really nice :tup: not my style to listen constantly, but at least it's a good song you can listen and enjoy, not to think that somebody had a plot to make you deaf.

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Too hard for me :D

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you should probably get into (proper) electronic music
Nah man, I really don't feel it. I was at one point into it, but then i just didn't interested me at all.
 

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Actually, that's spot on and wisdom lvl 999.

In my 10+ years here, the Tuz has always been the Tuz. Same circus with complaints coming from, and about, different clowns. :D

Actually, about the time I joined there was a sort of "more supportive" golden age that Martin talks about -- that soon ended. But you'll have to ask him details on that.
You point this out every year :D

And there's a lot of brilliant pop music these days
 

swag

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I'm disappointed you didn't mention Iron Maiden in that list. Especially when their best music was released between 80-88(Except Killers).
Killers was one of their best albums I thought during that time, and that was '81.

the music I highlighted generally just sounds overly dated and it's kind of hard to describe... I guess today's pop music kind of reminds me of 80s pop. there is a difference between music that sounds dated and music that sounds of its era
I can't listen to "newer" bands like Datarock or Anorak and not think there's nothing here I haven't heard 30 years ago. But I still like it.

But I have to give some cred to what the Sheik said about Maiden. I was a fan in the 80s and really hadn't listened to their stuff in ages. I put some on my headset for a run a week ago for nostalgic yuks, and damn if I wasn't surprised how well the music held up compared with its contemporaries of the time.
 
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Killers was one of their best albums I thought during that time, and that was '81.
I think their debut album was better. Afterall, Killers was essentially what was left over from the writing sessions for their debut. Nothing on Killers even comes close to being as awesome as Phantom Of The Opera.

But I have to give some cred to what the Sheik said about Maiden. I was a fan in the 80s and really hadn't listened to their stuff in ages. I put some on my headset for a run a week ago for nostalgic yuks, and damn if I wasn't surprised how well the music held up compared with its contemporaries of the time.
Absolutely. Everything from Number of the Beast to Seventh Son of a Seventh Son is a masterpiece in metal music.
 

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Absolutely. Everything from Number of the Beast to Seventh Son of a Seventh Son is a masterpiece in metal music.
What worked and what differentiated them is that they were ahead of the self-parody that followed in the 80s. Suddenly everyone who could pick up a guitar, a can of hairspray, and leather pants at the thrift store decided they could be rock gods and make a lot of money. Many of them did, but they either died from cocaine, syphilis, or obscurity within 5 years when the 1990s hit them in their powdered faces. Their music never made it out of the self-parody stage, which is why it sounds so derivative and joke-y today. They had no talent nor vision and could only emulate what they thought would sell.
 

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