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L'autista
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Nice, when will it air?
No word yet.

gotta come up with the zagat of coffees
They've tried... and failed.
http://theshot.coffeeratings.com/2013/02/zagat-2013-caffeine-buzz/

A background check to purchase a fire arm is reasonable. There's really no argument against it. I can understand arguing against mandatory registration, assualt bans, clip bans, etc. But making sure a gun owner doesn't have a history of violent crimes or retardation is fine by me.
I'm with you on this. If you suggest that background checks to purchase a firearm are overkill, then so is taking a driving test and proving residency to get a driver's license for that matter.

fuckin sheep, i cant wait for kim kardashian to chime in
Speaking of someone who needs a shrapnel facial.
 

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Bjerknes

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A background check to purchase a fire arm is reasonable. There's really no argument against it. I can understand arguing against mandatory registration, assualt bans, clip bans, etc. But making sure a gun owner doesn't have a history of violent crimes or retardation is fine by me.
I think it's a waste of time when Holder smuggles weapons into Mexico. It doesn't really matter to me personally, especially when anyone can create a pressure cooker device or buy an AK off some drug dealer. To me, it's akin to outlawing big gulps in New York.

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technology was bound to make our lives more exposed unfortunately, thats just the price to pay i guess. But $#@! it man :D not gonna sweat it
Well, you had better get used to it living in the Chi.
 

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I think it's a waste of time when Holder smuggles weapons into Mexico. It doesn't really matter to me personally, especially when anyone can create a pressure cooker device or buy an AK off some drug dealer. To me, it's akin to outlawing big gulps in New York.

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Well, you had better get used to it living in the Chi.
He's in Texas now.
 

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L'autista
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I think it's a waste of time when Holder smuggles weapons into Mexico. It doesn't really matter to me personally, especially when anyone can create a pressure cooker device or buy an AK off some drug dealer. To me, it's akin to outlawing big gulps in New York.
That's the abandonment of rational thinking for the exceptions. That exceptions inviolate any application of common sense.

This is like all the posters who bitch here about an infraction for insulting other posters because poster xyz once got away with it. That's like suggesting nobody should wear condoms because they're not foolproof.
 

Bjerknes

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That's the abandonment of rational thinking for the exceptions. That exceptions inviolate any application of common sense.

This is like all the posters who bitch here about an infraction for insulting other posters because poster xyz once got away with it. That's like suggesting nobody should wear condoms because they're not foolproof.
Your statement would make sense if the government was trying to uphold existing laws and not trying to sabotage various Amendments to the Constitution. But instead, unwarranted searches and seizures are promoted, nobody does anything about the rampant fraud in the banking industry, and war criminals like Obongo and Bush go untouched.

So your "common sense" is only valid when it is considered a constant. Otherwise, you're going to get lied to again and again. That is why I'd rather see nothing get done whatsoever. "Progress" is simply destroying the only sensical laws the country ever had.
 

Zacheryah

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Your statement would make sense if the government was trying to uphold existing laws and not trying to sabotage various Amendments to the Constitution. But instead, unwarranted searches and seizures are promoted, nobody does anything about the rampant fraud in the banking industry, and war criminals like Obongo and Bush go untouched.

So your "common sense" is only valid when it is considered a constant. Otherwise, you're going to get lied to again and again. That s why I'd rather see nothing get done whatsoever. "Progress" is simply destroying the only sensical laws the country ever had.
Do share the solution to the rampant fraud in the banking industry.

European country's tried a thing or two, but banks managed to transfer the cost to their custumers each time. Its not that simple.
 

Bjerknes

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Do share the solution to the rampant fraud in the banking industry.

European country's tried a thing or two, but banks managed to transfer the cost to their custumers each time. Its not that simple.
Upholding existing laws. Simple as that. Accounting fraud is a crime, Europe is just as bad if not worse than the US when it comes to that, not to mention derivative scams.
 

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Upholding existing laws. Simple as that. Accounting fraud is a crime, Europe is just as bad if not worse than the US when it comes to that, not to mention derivative scams.
Aye, trying Banks for fraud would be a start. Singling out guilty CEOs would be better. Not one single bank has been brought to court since the crash. It's shameful.
 

Bjerknes

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Folks just need to realize special interest rules government. You might think the government can provide solutions, but that is only realized when everything else is held constant. The laws your government passes will never solve anything apart from the problems their special interests consider to be problems.
 

Zacheryah

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Oh i'm not saying we are better, i'm just saying that the few effords they tried, didnt really put a dent in paper.

Brings me to the point, i used to be all for large bonusses for managers/directors responsible over hundreds or thousands of employee's. But its downright disgusting major banking managers kept getting fat bonusses, while they were clearly mismanaged, and state funds were needed to keep them from bankrupt. had 2 of those in belgium aswel.
I'd like bonusses to be more transparant. clear conditions to get them or not. like you would do with your employee's really : guy from sales, didnt sold enough ? not getting it.
 

ZoSo

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They're above entry level headphones, if Sheik wants the proper stuff he should go for the HD558's. A bit pricier, but the difference in quality is much larger than the price difference.
HD558s are not even audiophile quality either, and if you plan on taking them out in public, that would be retarded.

600s and above are considered proper audiohpile quality.

I was going to get 558s but I decided to get the 449s because they are closed back so you can use them at uni or whatever.
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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Aye, trying Banks for fraud would be a start. Singling out guilty CEOs would be better. Not one single bank has been brought to court since the crash. It's shameful.
It's bad, but letting big banks fail would be the warning shot. That is even better than prosecuting CEOs.

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Oh i'm not saying we are better, i'm just saying that the few effords they tried, didnt really put a dent in paper.

Brings me to the point, i used to be all for large bonusses for managers/directors responsible over hundreds or thousands of employee's. But its downright disgusting major banking managers kept getting fat bonusses, while they were clearly mismanaged, and state funds were needed to keep them from bankrupt. had 2 of those in belgium aswel.
I'd like bonusses to be more transparant. clear conditions to get them or not. like you would do with your employee's really : guy from sales, didnt sold enough ? not getting it.
That is why the best regulation is letting them fail hard. They wouldn't be in business to receive bonuses. Their assets would have been bought off.
 

Zacheryah

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It's bad, but letting big banks fail would be the warning shot. That is even better than prosecuting CEOs.

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That is why the best regulation is letting them fail hard. They wouldn't be in business to receive bonuses. Their assets would have been bought off.
Thats an interesting point. But what about people's savings ? and the impact on the economy ?
From what goverment tries to convince us (sounded legit) they saved the banks, to save economy.

I'm all for fining ceo's, cancelling bonusses. Take goddamn responsibility that your massive wage is payd for. resigning with a gigantic fee isnt quite the same
 

Bjerknes

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Thats an interesting point. But what about people's savings ? and the impact on the economy ?
From what goverment tries to convince us (sounded legit) they saved the banks, to save economy.

I'm all for fining ceo's, cancelling bonusses. Take goddamn responsibility that your massive wage is payd for. resigning with a gigantic fee isnt quite the same
Savings are more impacted by central banks bailing out failed banks by printing money, thus debasing currency and pushing taxpayer money towards failed businesses, which exacerbates a debt burden. Savings are bank deposits that should not be touched; supposedly they are insured by government agencies. But the major losses from bank failures originate from those holding stock or derivatives contracts from at risk banks, which is called counterparty risk. Sure, if major banks implode it will naturally shock the economy, but letting them fail and clearing out the bad debt is more efficient than using good cash to pump blood into a dead criminal.
 

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