Fr3sh

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Jul 12, 2011
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It's a sport for a couple of dousin individuals. It might be glorifying the machine which most definitely is destroying the world, but why can't formula 1 - the sport - not coexist with organised public transport to avoid all the troubles I listed earlier :boh: ?
So, then the individuals that participate in this organized sport, on every level, will in their turn have the said machine, and the fan base will then want the said machines, and since we are envious and greedy individuals and we live in a society that promotes over-consumptions the ones that have no idea what the sport is, will in their turn want the machine.
We should go back to riding donkeys, boats and bikes. No need for a half assed solution imo.
 

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Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
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So, then the individuals that participate in this organized sport, on every level, will in their turn have the said machine, and the fan base will then want the said machines, and since we are envious and greedy individuals and we live in a society that promotes over-consumptions the ones that have no idea what the sport is, will in their turn want the machine.
We should go back to riding donkeys, boats and bikes. No need for a half assed solution imo.
So, why can't F1 as a sport no coexist with public transportation as the solution for mass transportation? I agree with almost everything you wrote there and I still can't see why it's mutually exclusive. Because it's marketed and because we're a society of mindless consumption? Not good enough, we need to change those things either way, F1 or no F1.
 

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Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
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What the lag does that have to do with my point that we should invest more in public transport instead of using fuel on buying groceries??
when formula 1 started, there weren't teams like red bull in it. it was honda, toyota, bmw, etc etc. like mclaren now. they use formula 1 not only as a media and money generating machine, but also for research and development to develop new parts, or processes or whatever so that they can use them in cars they sell.

and this is only formula 1, there's so many other racing series out there. AUDI is pretty big on Lemans and they're making strides in developing tdi engines with crazy mileage and power. porsche used racing to develop their new hybrid supercar, same as the la ferrari and mclaren P1.

there would be no point to racing otherwise, they're not doing it for fun.
 

Fr3sh

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Jul 12, 2011
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So, why can't F1 as a sport no coexist with public transportation as the solution for mass transportation? I agree with almost everything you wrote there and I still can't see why it's mutually exclusive. Because it's marketed and because we're a society of mindless consumption? Not good enough, we need to change those things either way, F1 or no F1.
Doubt that's gonna change. At least until we all die, after we blow up the planet.
 

ZoSo

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Jul 11, 2011
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So, why can't F1 as a sport no coexist with public transportation as the solution for mass transportation? I agree with almost everything you wrote there and I still can't see why it's mutually exclusive. Because it's marketed and because we're a society of mindless consumption? Not good enough, we need to change those things either way, F1 or no F1.
Because F1 is the pinnacle of cars.

It's like saying top level football should exist but grassroots football should be mutually exclusive.

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when formula 1 started, there weren't teams like red bull in it. it was honda, toyota, bmw, etc etc. like mclaren now. they use formula 1 not only as a media and money generating machine, but also for research and development to develop new parts, or processes or whatever so that they can use them in cars they sell.

and this is only formula 1, there's so many other racing series out there. AUDI is pretty big on Lemans and they're making strides in developing tdi engines with crazy mileage and power. porsche used racing to develop their new hybrid supercar, same as the la ferrari and mclaren P1.

there would be no point to racing otherwise, they're not doing it for fun.
Pretty much every single car manufacturer in the world besides Lamborghini have their own factory racing teams whether it be F1, top peformance cars, le mans racers, national series, rally, nascar, seadan racing (i.e. dtm) etc
 

Fr3sh

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Jul 12, 2011
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when formula 1 started, there weren't teams like red bull in it. it was honda, toyota, bmw, etc etc. like mclaren now. they use formula 1 not only as a media and money generating machine, but also for research and development to develop new parts, or processes or whatever so that they can use them in cars they sell.

and this is only formula 1, there's so many other racing series out there. AUDI is pretty big on Lemans and they're making strides in developing tdi engines with crazy mileage and power. porsche used racing to develop their new hybrid supercar, same as the la ferrari and mclaren P1.

there would be no point to racing otherwise, they're not doing it for fun.
Don't bash me if I'm wrong, because I know fuck all on the subject matter. But I've been told that electric cars pollute a whole lot more than normal cars because of the way they are made. They may not pollute while driving, but the building process pollutes much more.

Like I said gimme some ass plz.
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
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when formula 1 started, there weren't teams like red bull in it. it was honda, toyota, bmw, etc etc. like mclaren now. they use formula 1 not only as a media and money generating machine, but also for research and development to develop new parts, or processes or whatever so that they can use them in cars they sell.

and this is only formula 1, there's so many other racing series out there. AUDI is pretty big on Lemans and they're making strides in developing tdi engines with crazy mileage and power. porsche used racing to develop their new hybrid supercar, same as the la ferrari and mclaren P1.

there would be no point to racing otherwise, they're not doing it for fun.
Wait, so in you I've finally found a person who believes that combustion engines are a valid long term solution for personal transportation? I've officially run out of words.

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Don't bash me if I'm wrong, because I know fuck all on the subject matter. But I've been told that electric cars pollute a whole lot more than normal cars because of the way they are made. They may not pollute while driving, but the building process pollutes much more.

Like I said gimme some ass plz.
They pollute like fuck because the power you put into them is from power plants that run on oil or natural gas.
 
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I'm with Zoric on this. Cars, we are consciously fucking up the world on so many levels, and making people clean your shit isn't cool and all but. What can we do? What can you do as an individual? Stop driving? Donate money to the poor so they won't clean?
"Making people clean"? Nigga please... these people are willing to clean houses and wash clothes n dishes for money. So how is that differentfrom any other sort of employment?
 

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Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
46,540
Because F1 is the pinnacle of cars.

It's like saying top level football should exist but grassroots football should be mutually exclusive.

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Pretty much every single car manufacturer in the world besides Lamborghini have their own factory racing teams whether it be F1, top peformance cars, le mans racers, national series, rally, nascar, seadan racing (i.e. dtm) etc
that's probably because lambo has that superstar reputation :p

plus they're owned by audi so it's not like they need their own department.

it's weird how so many people follow racing without knowing what really goes on with the technology or behind the scenes. i wouldn't think it would be that interesting that way.
 

Fr3sh

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Jul 12, 2011
37,255
"Making people clean"? Nigga please... these people are willing to clean houses and wash clothes n dishes for money. So how is that differentfrom any other sort of employment?
Wrong choice of words. Employment is employment as long as there is options of course. I'm against seeing a huge chunk of the population cleaning the houses of a few. But we are in placed in a situation in which we really can't do much about because of the political and economical issues.

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Donkeys? Do you like in a 1km town?
Making fun of me grandpa's ride. :stuckup:
 

ZoSo

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Jul 11, 2011
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that's probably because lambo has that superstar reputation :p

plus they're owned by audi so it's not like they need their own department.

it's weird how so many people follow racing without knowing what really goes on with the technology or behind the scenes. i wouldn't think it would be that interesting that way.
Those people just watch it for the crashes.
 

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Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
46,540
Don't bash me if I'm wrong, because I know fuck all on the subject matter. But I've been told that electric cars pollute a whole lot more than normal cars because of the way they are made. They may not pollute while driving, but the building process pollutes much more.

Like I said gimme some ass plz.
it's because of batteries not being biodegradable in the long term. that's pretty much the main thing.

Wait, so in you I've finally found a person who believes that combustion engines are a valid long term solution for personal transportation? I've officially run out of words.
hmm, don't recall saying that. i do recall saying racing series are used to help car step up their game when it comes to making more efficient cars. have you noticed the change in formula 1 engines over the year? oh, right, you haven't. you only watch to be a cheerleader for the team you think is coolest.
 

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