Even if you get to see the band you like, my issue is that you get crummy outdoor audio and have to wade through 80,000 other people to even see them the size of a postage stamp. But you're right about those shows attracting an audience that seems less engaged with the music and more engaged with themselves and having music as the backdrop. Which is probably why it was never my scene.
I guess that's right but I find it's usually pretty easy to get close to the front or at least a close-ish distance.
