Weston “Immovable” McKennie (79 Viewers)
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He was expensive based on when we signed him. Schalke are horrible and McKennie didnt have a particularly great reputation based on his level.
IIRC the total fee for him was 25-30m.
Thats a lot for a player with no track record at a high level.
Erikssen went for 27m
Barella for 40m
Kessie for 30m?
Calhanoglu for 25m
Etc
We didn't get a bargain for McKennie, we paid high for him, luckily its working out.
IIRC the total fee for him was 25-30m.
Thats a lot for a player with no track record at a high level.
Erikssen went for 27m
Barella for 40m
Kessie for 30m?
Calhanoglu for 25m
Etc
We didn't get a bargain for McKennie, we paid high for him, luckily its working out.
McKennie is doing almost the same as Ramsey. The impression here is that the Welshman is having a bad season, while McKennie is having a very good season. The reality is that they are doing the same.
6 goals+assists for both of them, with McKennie playing 267 minutes more. Ramsey is making more passes per match, more crosses, he creates more chances (key passes), and he is losing the ball less than McKennie (dispossessed per match; bad ball control stats). McKennie covers more distance, intercepts more passes and wins more aerials. They are identical or almost identical in the percentage of successful passes, in tackles per match, in dribbling and in blocked shots.
Why is the impression so different? Because we expected more from Ramsey and less from McKennie. But if one is having a bad season, then so is the other one. If one is having a very good season, the same goes for the other guy.
Or are they both having a mediocre season, or at least a season not worthy of a scudetto winning team? Just like Arthur, Rabiot and Bentancur.
6 goals+assists for both of them, with McKennie playing 267 minutes more. Ramsey is making more passes per match, more crosses, he creates more chances (key passes), and he is losing the ball less than McKennie (dispossessed per match; bad ball control stats). McKennie covers more distance, intercepts more passes and wins more aerials. They are identical or almost identical in the percentage of successful passes, in tackles per match, in dribbling and in blocked shots.
Why is the impression so different? Because we expected more from Ramsey and less from McKennie. But if one is having a bad season, then so is the other one. If one is having a very good season, the same goes for the other guy.
Or are they both having a mediocre season, or at least a season not worthy of a scudetto winning team? Just like Arthur, Rabiot and Bentancur.
Yet they are both very different players.
Ramsey is very slow an sluggish in defending, while McKennie offers us more dynamism. His runs in the box, aerial threat and defensive skills give us something we’ve been missing for years.
Besides that Ramsey should be at the peak of his career and is pretty underwhelming, while McKennie is in his first year at a big club with a lot of room to grow.
Attacking Ramsey might offer more creativity, but the arguments above here make me believe that McKennie is having a better season.
Ramsey doesn’t have the legs to play in the position that Pirlo is asking him to play in, McK has.
And then there are the ongoing injuries of Ramsey; play 3 games, miss 4 of them
Ramsey is very slow an sluggish in defending, while McKennie offers us more dynamism. His runs in the box, aerial threat and defensive skills give us something we’ve been missing for years.
Besides that Ramsey should be at the peak of his career and is pretty underwhelming, while McKennie is in his first year at a big club with a lot of room to grow.
Attacking Ramsey might offer more creativity, but the arguments above here make me believe that McKennie is having a better season.
Ramsey doesn’t have the legs to play in the position that Pirlo is asking him to play in, McK has.
And then there are the ongoing injuries of Ramsey; play 3 games, miss 4 of them
But it's true 
And it's not €18m.
And it's not €18m.
Imagine if spent like 40-50m on him how pissy this people would be and they are already complaining about the money spent on him LOL
That joke valuation? Like any club out there would ever pay close to that for him.
And they'd have any right to be pissy. €25m is already on the edge for what shouldn't be more than a bench player for Juve.
I have nothing against the guy, he has been a positive surprise so far, but it's not like he was a steal.
And they'd have any right to be pissy. €25m is already on the edge for what shouldn't be more than a bench player for Juve.
I have nothing against the guy, he has been a positive surprise so far, but it's not like he was a steal.
No it's not. We are paying €30M for a midfielder who we had low expectations to begin with. And it's not like he has set the stage alight at Juve. He's been barely better than the inconsistent bunch of idiots we have in midfield. If we sign better players over the summer, Mckennie will go back to riding the bench. Sorry but a club like Juventus can do better than Mckennie and I certainly wouldn't call paying €25-30M for someone who isnt even that good to begin with, a 'bargain'.
I have a feeling he will continue to be a starter next season cause he adds balance. 
Three man midfield with regista like Arthur/ Locatelli, more attack minded Mezzala like Aouar and the 3rd position is all Weston's. Bentancur can be his backup.
Three man midfield with regista like Arthur/ Locatelli, more attack minded Mezzala like Aouar and the 3rd position is all Weston's. Bentancur can be his backup.
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I would argue that he will improve further and exceed all expectations if if give him one or two better mids too play with in the starting lineup.
Bentancur and Rabiot are so poor they bring everyone around them down.
I have a feeling he will continue to be a starter next season cause he adds balance.
Three man midfield with regista like Arthur/ Locatelli, more attack minded Mezzala like Aouar and the 3rd position is all Weston's. Bentancur can be his backup.
Three man midfield with regista like Arthur/ Locatelli, more attack minded Mezzala like Aouar and the 3rd position is all Weston's. Bentancur can be his backup.
Sarri played Matuidi for 'balance' last season but we all know how limited he was in all other areas. Now Pirlo will be forced to play Weston for 'balance' but Mckennie has shown he can be limited in his passing. Same thing with the likes of Rabiot and Bentancur. They have one decent skillset but they are poor in everything else. And they're pussies to boot.
Seems those 'dynamic' midfielders have been completely vanished from our radar ever since we sold Vidal and Pogba.