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    But you're making excuses. You're saying that it's good enough to be runners-up and bow out. You're dismissing the possibility that once in a while you need to exceed expectations. You're adopting the Fabio Capello philosophy here: play as good as your potential, but no better. And everybody should celebrate that as an accomplishment? That gives Germany a free pass?

    No, Germany lost in 2006 to a legend like Fabio Grosso and in 2010 to a legend in Puyol. It's not exactly the story of Costa Rica taking on the German Machine of this World Cup.
     

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    We need to be extremely realistic when we mention Holland.


    Holland isnt an attacking team at the moment. They seek to absorb the opponent and counter it. They depend on decent crossers on the wing, Sneijder having a reasonable game, Robben and Van Persie. The last one having difficulties with the number of games this year.


    But lets be serious. Not a single team on this worldcup bar Germany had impressive attacking football when in possession.
    Brazil has a shitty generation, France was good, but germany took em down, spain failed, italy failed, england failed harder, Holland had to be defensive to be good...

    Leaving south american teams with alot of grinta and determination, but ultimately, not so brilliant players. Suarez was half fit in an average team, James Rodriguez is a one hit wonder, Chile needs space for their offensive game etc...


    The only team at this worldcup that stands out of this mediocre shit, is Germany. Organised excellence, direct attacking from that organisation, quick passing that actively seeks for a trough ball when the opponent parks it, amazing off the ball movement, incredibly talented creative players.




    Oh, did i mention the "heynckens bayeren tactic" that Germany is currently using, is a direct counter to the argentine playstyle ?
     
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    Lion said:
    but the did exceed expectaions by making it to the semis....
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    Four consecutive times? How many times in a row can a team make the semifinals without the shock anymore that they supposedly don't belong there?
     
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    this year is different. yeah they were a heay weight to begin with. i was talking previous

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    swag said:
    Four consecutive times? How many times in a row can a team make the semifinals without the shock anymore that they supposedly don't belong there?
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    this meaningless. germany is going oo crush argetina and muller will dance cirlces around messi.
     
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    Zacheryah said:
    Neuer, Hummels, Lahm, Schweinsteiger, Kroos, Müller, Özil, Götze, Draxxler, Schürrle, Klose


    "exceed expectations". Yeah right...
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    And while we're putting Grosso and Puyol on legendary pedestals for offering the deciders that knocked Germany out of the last two World Cups, let's look at the list of unknowns on these German sides: Schweinsteiger, Kahn, Ballack, Lahm, some guy named Klose who would go on to become the WC's leading all-time scorer during his tenure over those 4 WCs...

    Nope, no potential legends there at all. :rolleyes:

    Germany has pulled a smokescreen of lowered expectations to play the "lovable underdogs" card for their failures over the past three World Cups. And it seems like I am the only one who isn't buying it here.
     
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    swag said:
    And while we're putting Grosso and Puyol on legendary pedestals for offering the deciders that knocked Germany out of the last two World Cups, let's look at the list of unknowns on these German sides: Schweinsteiger, Kahn, Ballack, Lahm, some guy named Klose who would go on to become the WC's leading all-time scorer during his tenure over those 4 WCs...

    Nope, no potential legends there at all. :rolleyes:

    Germany has pulled a smokescreen of lowered expectations to play the "lovable underdogs" card for their failures over the past three World Cups. And it seems like I am the only one who isn't buying it here.
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    Humble swag slips up unexpectedly. :D Yes, Greg, you are the only one who figured out what happened. Will you please be our leader, please? :D
     
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    :D Nah. I'm just honestly shocked how many people are buying this line that Germany was never good enough until now, that it was a surprise honor for them to make the semifinals, that they had no stars compared to the likes of Puyol or Grosso.

    Back me up here, dude! :D
     
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    swag said:
    :D Nah. I'm just honestly shocked how many people are buying this line that Germany was never good enough until now, that it was a surprise honor for them to make the semifinals, that they had no stars compared to the likes of Puyol or Grosso.

    Back me up here, dude! :D
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    Man, I look at those German names and I have no idea what position they even play. In the semi final there were many scorers and I have no idea if they were all defenders or substitutes or what.

    You're on your own carrying that cross. :D
     

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    #GER LINE-UP: Neuer, Howedes, Hummels, Khedira, Schweinsteiger, Ozil, Klose, Muller, Lahm (c), Kroos, Boateng

    #ARG LINE-UP: Romero, Garay, Zabaleta, Biglia, Perez, Higuain, Messi (c), Mascherano, Demichelis, Rojo, Lavezzi
     
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    Zacheryah said:
    Oh, did i mention the "heynckens bayeren tactic" that Germany is currently using, is a direct counter to the argentine playstyle ?
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    I thought you said several times it is the direct counter to the barca/Guardiola/Spain style. Argentina play nothing close to that.






    As for my predictions, I actually have 3, 1-0 or 2-0 for Argentina OR 4-0 for Germany
     
    CrimsonianKing

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    swag said:
    :D Nah. I'm just honestly shocked how many people are buying this line that Germany was never good enough until now, that it was a surprise honor for them to make the semifinals, that they had no stars compared to the likes of Puyol or Grosso.

    Back me up here, dude! :D
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    I've said it for at least 4 years that on paper Germany is the best squad in the world.
     
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