[WC] World Cup 2014 - General Talk Thread (80 Viewers)

[Raz]

Yes messi is good, but he's the most boring great player the history has seen. Plus he looks like a mental midget.

 

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[Fred]

Well I'm thinking that's exactly why they are not satisfied with his performance for the national team. They think he's not giving his 100% for the NT.

If you watched him for Barcelona last season, you'd have said the same thing. He was walking through most matches for Barcelona, at the time people were saying that he was saving himself for the WC, but now he's in the WC, he's still doing the same thing, i.e not being his old explosive self.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

ridiculous, messi is having a great world cup, and for the first time in 24 years argentina reached the semis.

 

[ALC]

I'm pretty sure and i'm sure you are too, that those were not a representative sample of Argentines, it would seem quite safe to assume that he'd probably be a fan favorite back in Argentina.

the criticism that he isn't playing well by his standards is most definitely warranted, that goes to show how high his standards are though, because he has single handedly decided most of Argentina's games in this WC, sure he doesn't show up for most of the game, but those moments of magic at the end are what has got Argentina this far, I think it would be safe to say, nobody can argue with that.

I don't understand whats so hard about giving a player the credit he deserves, and then going on to slant him and say you hate him. The two aren't mutually exclusive, you can hate a player and still give credit where its due.

They're just mad he's not as good for Argentina as DP was for Italy.

 

[Fred]

Yes messi is good, but he's the most boring great player the history has seen. Plus he looks like a mental midget.

The bolded is up to taste.

You can do better than good though, try world class

 

[Hængebøffer]

Well I'm thinking that's exactly why they are not satisfied with his performance for the national team. They think he's not giving his 100% for the NT.

He can't. Football today is just physically tough and it's the end of the season.

 

[Raz]

The bolded is up to taste.

You can do better than good though, try world class

Bolded? Nothing is up to taste then? I couldn't say that, instead I said one of the great players from football history

 

[Fred]

ridiculous, messi is having a great world cup, and for the first time in 24 years argentina reached the semis.

I think so too, he's efficient if not spectacular, and he's got them results.

They're just mad he's not as good for Argentina as DP was for Italy.

Lets not tread on ice here, the DP crowd are a sensitive bunch

 

[CrimsonianKing]

Bernard will start. @PedroFlu Scolari. 0 chances of winning this.

 

[Hængebøffer]

ridiculous, messi is having a great world cup, and for the first time in 24 years argentina reached the semis.

Comparing his performances to Argentina's, yes. You guys always slam Rus for his stats view.

 

[Mister]

BRA LINE-UP: Julio Cesar, David Luiz (c), Fernandinho, Marcelo, Hulk, Fred, Oscar, Dante, Luiz Gustavo, Bernard, Maicon

GER LINE-UP: Neuer, Hoewedes, Hummels, Khedira, Schweinsteiger, Ozil, Klose, Muller, Lahm (c), Kroos, Boateng

 

[swag]

I don't even want to comment on that

He's just pissed Russia didn't make it past the group stage.

 

[CrimsonianKing]

Yes messi is good, but he's the most boring great player the history has seen. Plus he looks like a mental midget.

Messi is the most uninteresting great number 10 there ever was. Doesn't change the fact he is gifted.

 

[king Ale]

I'm pretty sure and i'm sure you are too, that those were not a representative sample of Argentines, it would seem quite safe to assume that he'd probably be a fan favorite back in Argentina.

the criticism that he isn't playing well by his standards is most definitely warranted, that goes to show how high his standards are though, because he has single handedly decided most of Argentina's games in this WC, sure he doesn't show up for most of the game, but those moments of magic at the end are what has got Argentina this far, I think it would be safe to say, nobody can argue with that.

I don't understand whats so hard about giving a player the credit he deserves, and then going on to slant him and say you hate him. The two aren't mutually exclusive, you can hate a player and still give credit where its due.

Of course they don't represent the whole nation but it was still funny to me to accidentally meet some Argentinian football fans and realize that they don't even like the guy that much For a player of his grandeur and status , you would expect a random sample of his people to at least show minimum appreciation for what he's done so far

 

[Hængebøffer]

Oh, and of course Fred shows up to defend Messi

 

[GordoDeCentral]

I think so too, he's efficient if not spectacular, and he's got them results.

apart from the nigeria game, every team hes faced arranged their defense to stop him, and he still found a way to hurt them. Also i think it's important in WCs to manage your stamina levels by doing the bare minimum as much as possible.

 

[Fred]

Comparing his performances to Argentina's, yes. You guys always slam Rus for his stats view.

Fuck stats man, he's decided almost all of Argentina's WC games by solo efforts. Do you deny that?

 

[JuveJay]

He can't. Football today is just physically tough and it's the end of the season.

Now we know the real reason for moving Desert 2022 to January.

 

[Fred]

Of course they don't represent the whole nation but it was still funny to me to accidentally meet some Argentinian football fans and realize that they don't even like the guy that much For a player of his grandeur and status , you would expect a random sample of his people to at least show minimum appreciation for what he's done so far

selective perception and self fulfilling prophecy come to mind.

Oh, and of course Fred shows up to defend Messi

I want to have his babies.

apart from the nigeria game, every team hes faced arranged their defense to stop him, and he still found a way to hurt them. Also i think it's important in WCs to manage your stamina levels by doing the bare minimum as much as possible.

Can't argue with that, though as a neutral I'd have preferred to see the old explosive Messi.

 

[Hængebøffer]

Fuck stats man, he's decided almost all of Argentina's WC games by solo efforts. Do you deny that?

Do you even read my posts? He's doing good in a low quality world cup. He has shown us much better stuff at club level. The same goes for most of the big players.