[WC] World Cup 2014 - General Talk Thread (9 Viewers)

[Zacheryah]

How hot is it wherever they are playing?

Holland - Mexico is played in Fortaleza, "estadio Castelao"

29°C / 85°F and 84% humidity



Costa Rica - Greece is played in Recife. "Pernambuco"
27 °C/80°F 100% humidity, rain as a shower

 

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[JCK]

This Colombia, fine they didnt got a good opponent so far, but they play some excellent football

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It sure is, I like watching both teams.

However I'm not sure if I agree with that first sentence I think Holland will break through their middle quite easy so IMO we'll see many dangerous actions if anything.

I also expect Holland to be creating a lot and Mexico defending in a very smart way. I also expect a lot of dangerous counter attacks from the Mexicans.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Oh, I thought Salvo was asking in general.

I also expect Holland to be creating a lot and Mexico defending in a very smart way. I also expect a lot of dangerous counter attacks from the Mexicans.

 

[Salvo]

Jesus that weather will help the Mexicans.

 

[JCK]

The match is played early during the day as well when it is natually warmer.

 

[Alen]

Anyways, petty jabbing aside, you defend and attack as a team - the one principle you gotta master if you wanna succeed in team sports. How Colombia do from now on is not gonna come down to what the back 3-4 players do but how the whole team does it's job in defense and attack. That's all that matters - how those pieces fit in one team, not how good or bad they may be separately, which let's face it is always subjective.

Something Brazil might have to learn to do on the fly, especially if Neymar can't make it for next game, 'cause all they've do so far is defend with the back 4, attack with the front 3 and the 3 mids have done jack all besides looking pretty in the sun.

That's all true. Colombia work well as a team, have the chemistry and have quality in midfield and attack. They have individuals who win games. But such weak links covering in front of the goalkeeper are bound to cost you big. Lets face it, that defense wasn't faced with problems, yet, due to the poor showing (and quality) of the opponents in the group and the toothless (pun intended) Uruguay. Their opponents were handled with team work, something they won't be able to do perfectly when they face quality attack and when individual quality in defense will also have to help. I wish them the best, but I can't see them succeeding when they face quality. Not so much for the CBs, as much as for the fact that Armero and Zuniga simply can't defend.

 

[Alex-444]

- What did you discuss? When you go out on the field, you will be blown away there in five minutes - she said confidently. - I'll go out on the field for 15 minutes, but I will die there, and nobody will tell me that it is not laid out, played poorly. - They also spread. - Girl, well, where they were laid? They almost scared. My son goes to the "Locomotive", it almost scared when seeing the ball. Here is the same. Team suckers ... I live in the most powerful country in the world. I want it all was the strongest, and only in the men's sport - even more so!

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Capello
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=if0wu3HEvJA

 

[acmilan]

That's all true. Colombia work well as a team, have the chemistry and have quality in midfield and attack. They have individuals who win games. But such weak links covering in front of the goalkeeper are bound to cost you big. Lets face it, that defense wasn't faced with problems, yet, due to the poor showing (and quality) of the opponents in the group and the toothless (pun intended) Uruguay. Their opponents were handled with team work, something they won't be able to do perfectly when they face quality attack and when individual quality in defense will also have to help. I wish them the best, but I can't see them succeeding when they face quality. Not so much for the CBs, as much as for the fact that Armero and Zuniga simply can't defend.

No denying the level of competition is only gonna go up from now on. But think of it this way - Colombia is inferior to Brazil in all zones, not just defense. Despite all the praise the Jameses and Cuadrados of the world may be getting, Colombia just don't compare one-to-one even with this relatively poor generation of Brazilian players (by the usual Brazilian standards). So, their only chance is to overcome this as a team, not just a collection of individuals. That was my point - the names in defense may not be overly exciting but neither are the ones in midfield or attack for that matter, at least not to the point where you can say they are better individually than what Brazil will put out on the field. Luckily for Colombia, at least for now, Brazil have shown poor team chemistry and if that were to continue onto the next game, Colombia may not be as big an underdog as they may seem on paper.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

There's plenty of quality indeed and it's a fact. However, it's also a fact that Serie A shows the tendency of losing quality players for years now.

, and it will continue to happen when these clubs are bleeding money and can't afford to say no the big spending clubs.

 

[acmilan]

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I also expect Holland to be creating a lot and Mexico defending in a very smart way. I also expect a lot of dangerous counter attacks from the Mexicans.

I don't know about that, tbh. The Dutch will likely factor in the "weather" and will realize they can't afford to be the aggressor for long stretches of the game. My guess is they will play a waiting game like they did vs Chile, which carries a lot of similarities to this Mexican team.

 

[Zacheryah]

I don't know about that, tbh. The Dutch will likely factor in the "weather" and will realize they can't afford to be the aggressor for long stretches of the game. My guess is they will play a waiting game like they did vs Chile, which carries a lot of similarities to this Mexican team.

my point exactly

 

[JCK]

I don't know about that, tbh. The Dutch will likely factor in the "weather" and will realize they can't afford to be the aggressor for long stretches of the game. My guess is they will play a waiting game like they did vs Chile, which carries a lot of similarities to this Mexican team.

They afforded to play a similar game like they did against Chile because a draw would have seen them top the group anyway. A draw here can see them anywhere.

 

[Linebreak]

There's plenty of quality indeed and it's a fact. However, it's also a fact that Serie A shows the tendency of losing quality players for years now.

And the quality exhibited by Serie A players this world cup will only serve to speed up the exodus.

 

[Byrone]

Serie A - Helping us, help you. Since 2004–05 ™

 

[Mister]

Brazilian Sandro Ricci will officiate Germany-Algeria, while American Mark Geiger is the referee for France-Nigeria

 

[Klin]

Brazilian Sandro Ricci will officiate Germany-Algeria, while American Mark Geiger is the referee for France-Nigeria

Thanks mate. I really wanted to know this.

 

[Osman]

No denying the level of competition is only gonna go up from now on. But think of it this way - Colombia is inferior to Brazil in all zones, not just defense. Despite all the praise the Jameses and Cuadrados of the world may be getting, Colombia just don't compare one-to-one even with this relatively poor generation of Brazilian players (by the usual Brazilian standards). So, their only chance is to overcome this as a team, not just a collection of individuals. That was my point - the names in defense may not be overly exciting but neither are the ones in midfield or attack for that matter, at least not to the point where you can say they are better individually than what Brazil will put out on the field. Luckily for Colombia, at least for now, Brazil have shown poor team chemistry and if that were to continue onto the next game, Colombia may not be as big an underdog as they may seem on paper.

Not sure how entirely true that is, likes of Jackson Martinez and Ramos arent inferior to Fred or Jo (in fact better prolly), and James and Cuadrado has nothing at all to envy from likes of Oscar and Hulk. Brasils DMs, Defence and goalie is whole another matter though, besides Neymar its their strong suit.

 

[Mister]

Thanks mate. I really wanted to know this.

Fixtures for Sunday 29th June 2014

Netherlands v Mexico. Match 51, at the Estádio Castelão, Fortaleza.

Referee: Pedro PROENÇA (POR)
Assistant Referees: Bertino MIRANDA (POR) and Tiago TRIGO (POR)
Fourth Official: Carlos VERA (ECU)

Costa Rica v Greece. Match 52, at the Arena Pernambuco, Recife

Referee: Benjamin WILLIAMS (AUS)
Assistant Referees: Matthew CREAM (AUS) and Hakan ANAZ (AUS)
Fourth Official: Nawaf SHUKRALLA (BHR)

Monday 30th June 2014
France v Nigeria. Match 53, at the Estádio Nacional Mané Garrincha, Brasília

Referee: Mark W GEIGER (USA)
Assistant Referees: Mark Sean HURD (USA) and Joe FLETCHER (CAN)
Fourth official: Alireza FAGHANI (IRN)

Germany v Algeria. Match 54, at the Estádio Beira-Rio, Porto Alegre

Referee: Sandro RICCI (Brazil)
Assistant Referees: Emerson DE CARVALHO (BRA) and Marcelo VAN GASSE (BRA)
Fourth official: Walter LOPEZ (GUA)


I know you would do the same for me.

 

[Klin]

 

[Mister]

Brazilian Sandro Ricci will officiate Germany-Algeria, while American Mark Geiger is the referee for France-Nigeria

Conspiracy theory