[WC] World Cup 2010 - General Talk Thread (56 Viewers)

[king Ale]

Yes, but allowing 2 points in basketball, which amounts to 2% or 3% of a team's points versus one goal which is normally 50% or 100% of a team's points is very different.

I mean, you SHOULD score a penalty kick. They don't call it a penalty because it's really difficult to do.

It's irrelevant. Why don't they call for a free throw in basketball for a goaltending violation? Because you must block the ball before it is on its way to the basket. It would be too late otherwise and your team has already conceded the goal. And this is right and fair. We need to have it in football as well.

 

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[Enron]

ur just being difficult now. We're talking about players intentionally handling the ball on the line to prevent a SURE goal! this has nothing to do with any other infraction inside the area which all constitute POTENTIAL goalscoring OPPORTUNITIES... NOT SURE GOALS

i highlighted the key words to make it easier for u to understand since ur clearly missing the point

I still don't get it. Can you do it in yellow, green and pink?

 

[BillyG]

I wasn't talking about technology.

I'm against it (technology) because I think it will slow down the flow of the game. There's no way they will be able to determine things like that in a timely manner (scope out a hockey game). So players will either be forced to stop until a decision is made or they'll be thinking back the whole time wondering if the questionable goal will or won't count.

As for the goal line handball issue, I guess you could change the rule for all ball certain goals the are blocked via the hand along the goal line. But penalties would still need to be the status quo for any other infraction in the box. Unintentional handballs would be an issue as well.

Seems to be a bit of a pandora's box to me. Could just be easier to employ top rated officials at the World Cup.

thought we were meant to have the best, of the best, of the best at the WC?

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

It's irrelevant. Why don't they call for a free throw in basketball for a goaltending violation? Because you must block the ball before it is on its way to the basket. It would be too late otherwise and your team has already conceded the goal. And this is right and fair. We need to have it in football as well.

It's not irrelevant.

And that is like saying we should allow penalty kicks for continued fouling....

 

[Enron]

thought we were meant to have the best, of the best, of the best at the WC?

You're kidding right? Some of these guys had horrible reputations coming into the Cup.

 

[BillyG]

That's different per player.

Some might have no pressure at all. You can't use that.

point taken, i considered that. but even for the same player the pressures are different for every penalty depending on the circumstances. We're talking about a penalty in the world cup for a spot in the semi-finals

but ur point is a fair one

 

[Bjerknes]

Nah, stop bringing so many "if"s into the rule. If the player thinks it's going to hit the post, he must not handle the ball.

Like the goaltending violation: In basketball, goaltending is the violation of interfering with the ball when it is on its way to the basket and it is (a) in its downward flight, (b) entirely above the rim and has the possibility of entering the basket, and (c) not touching the rim. If goaltending is called for interference with a field goal, the shooting team is awarded the points for the field goal as if it had been made.

When a player blocks the ball on its way to the basket, they call for goal even though it's not 100% certain whether the ball is going to enter the basket or hit the rim.

All in all, this would be making much more sense compared to denying a GOAL and changing it to only a goal opportunity.

Well, if you want to use basketball rules in football, I said we create an "icing" rule like that in hockey where if you blast the ball down the pitch, you get a free kick in your own end.

Lets make sure all the crew in the dugouts wear protective suits like in Nascar as well while we're at it.

 

[BillyG]

You're kidding right? Some of these guys had horrible reputations coming into the Cup.

that's y i said "THOUGHT"

ur really having a problem understand tonight

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

thought we were meant to have the best, of the best, of the best at the WC?

You are telling me that officials from Kazakhstan, Saudi Arabi, and random African countries are the best?

Hell no. The best are from Europe, the ones that have to work in the world's top leagues day in and day out, but that would be called biased.

The refs from the EUROs were great.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Well, if you want to use basketball rules in football, I said we create an "icing" rule like that in hockey where if you blast the ball down the pitch, you get a free kick in your own end.

Lets make sure all the crew in the dugouts wear protective suits like in Nascar as well while we're at it.

And we have to wear helmets like in Water Polo.

 

[Enron]

that's y i said "THOUGHT"

ur really having a problem understand tonight

I forgot the smilie. :frown:

But yes I got you.

I understood you earlier, but I don't agree.

 

[Enron]

You are telling me that officials from Kazakhstan, Saudi Arabi, and random African countries are the best?

Hell no. The best are from Europe, the ones that have to work in the world's top leagues day in and day out, but that would be called biased.

The refs from the EUROs were great.

Sarcasm bro. The US has a couple that are top notch as well.

 

[BillyG]

You are telling me that officials from Kazakhstan, Saudi Arabi, and random African countries are the best?

Hell no. The best are from Europe, the ones that have to work in the world's top leagues day in and day out, but that would be called biased.

The refs from the EUROs were great.

yeah sure... that's why the semi was given to the uzbek's and the only euro ref covering himself in glory is the english

 

[king Ale]

Well, if you want to use basketball rules in football, I said we create an "icing" rule like that in hockey where if you blast the ball down the pitch, you get a free kick in your own end.

Lets make sure all the crew in the dugouts wear protective suits like in Nascar as well while we're at it.

Ah how typical of you.

We have to use anything which could minimize such flaws in the rules no matter if we take them from basketball, hockey or judo.

 

[Bjerknes]

People try to have a rational debate, and all you bring to the argument are insults.

Pathetic really.

It isn't really worth any time. Again, if this happened to the US, you wouldn't really care. So you're discredited in this discussion.

The rules of the game were enforced in this case. If one wants to have a discussion, discuss the several wrong decisions that did not adhere to the rules instead of concocting new rules that would do more harm than good.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Sarcasm bro. The US has a couple that are top notch as well.

see below

yeah sure... that's why the semi was given to the uzbek's and the only euro ref covering himself in glory is the english

blow me

 

[Bjerknes]

Ah how typical of you.

We have to use anything which could minimize such flaws in the rules no matter if we take them from basketball, hockey or judo.

Sorry Hoori. You're capable of coming up with better ideas than that.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Ah how typical of you.

We have to use anything which could minimize such flaws in the rules no matter if we take them from basketball, hockey or judo.

JUDO!

Great idea, after a yellow card, any opposing player can hip throw the yellow carded player.....


Amazing idea!

 

[BillyG]

I forgot the smilie. :frown:

But yes I got you.

I understood you earlier, but I don't agree.

it's all good man

can't agree with everybody on everything

 

[bianconero]

It isn't really worth any time. Again, if this happened to the US, you wouldn't really care. So you're discredited in this discussion.

The rules of the game were enforced in this case. If one wants to have a discussion, discuss the several wrong decisions that did not adhere to the rules instead of concocting new rules that would do more harm than good.

That's where we differ, if it had happened to the US I would be of the same mind.

I may have laughed though.