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How come when De rossi falls over against New Zealand he is vilified but everybody rushes to defend Torres for that?

There is no contact in either incident and Torres even gets an opposing player sent off for it.
 
Apr 15, 2006
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Cos everyone's biased against Italy. I had the same argument in another forum. They said the Italians have made diving and cheating part of their gameplay. I tried to explain that it's the players that dive, and not the "team". They didn't buy it. Now I started posting the diving gifs and comment when they dive during a match. Now no one replies to me!

They're all biased!
 

king Ale

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Oct 28, 2004
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How come when De rossi falls over against New Zealand he is vilified but everybody rushes to defend Torres for that?

There is no contact in either incident and Torres even gets an opposing player sent off for it.
Oh wait, he is Italian :disagree:

Even if the defender PULLS his shirt and he falls, it must be automatically a dive.
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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I believe that Probability Theory was the real winner today. To concede so early on yet again, stifling every ounce of urgency we probably tried to have, was just too much this time. Just like Ghana not scoring from open play in quite some time, I had thought that the chances of them scoring in the midst of play was very high, and unfortunately for us, Probability won.

Despite this, I'm still proud of the team. They managed to fight their way back into the match far more than any other side I have ever seen. The level of passion surrounding our national team over the past few days has been absolutely heartwarming, far more than I had expected. Even non-football fans were watching today. Shame we let them down. Hopefully they have gained a bit more respect for the game and for our own national team.

We lost this match as soon as our manager created the team sheet. Clark should have never been included at the start of the match, especially when Edu has done very well off the bench. Folks have said that Clark was used because he can be physical against the strong Ghanian players, but so can Edu. And the problem we have here is that Edu is good with the ball and can play it quickly when necessary, which Clark cannot do... and which hurt us badly in this match. Edu was the obvious start, yet Bob Bradley again showed himself to be quite ridiculous at times. The same can be said about Findley who could only be useful against a slow back line.

If we had to take one thing back with us from South Africa, it would be our heart. No doubt. That much we can build upon. But our mindset and tactics in starting matches has obviously not been up to par, and that is the manager's fault considering it has occurred so often. It's the typical US side... play like shit for the first 45, then turn it on. We did it in the QF's. And to achieve our goals as a footballing nation, as in reach the quarters and beyond, these failures in team mentality are not good enough. We need a manager who can sort this stuff out, even while I do give Bob Bradley credit for at least getting a good group of players going at halftime.

Players like Dempsey, Landon and Bradley have done us proud. And I thank them for their effort. Cannot wait until 2014.
 
Apr 15, 2006
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I believe that Probability Theory was the real winner today. To concede so early on yet again, stifling every ounce of urgency we probably tried to have, was just too much this time. Just like Ghana not scoring from open play in quite some time, I had thought that the chances of them scoring in the midst of play was very high, and unfortunately for us, Probability won.

Despite this, I'm still proud of the team. They managed to fight their way back into the match far more than any other side I have ever seen. The level of passion surrounding our national team over the past few days has been absolutely heartwarming, far more than I had expected. Even non-football fans were watching today. Shame we let them down. Hopefully they have gained a bit more respect for the game and for our own national team.

We lost this match as soon as our manager created the team sheet. Clark should have never been included at the start of the match, especially when Edu has done very well off the bench. Folks have said that Clark was used because he can be physical against the strong Ghanian players, but so can Edu. And the problem we have here is that Edu is good with the ball and can play it quickly when necessary, which Clark cannot do... and which hurt us badly in this match. Edu was the obvious start, yet Bob Bradley again showed himself to be quite ridiculous at times. The same can be said about Findley who could only be useful against a slow back line.

If we had to take one thing back with us from South Africa, it would be our heart. No doubt. That much we can build upon. But our mindset and tactics in starting matches has obviously not been up to par, and that is the manager's fault considering it has occurred so often. It's the typical US side... play like shit for the first 45, then turn it on. We did it in the QF's. And to achieve our goals as a footballing nation, as in reach the quarters and beyond, these failures in team mentality are not good enough. We need a manager who can sort this stuff out, even while I do give Bob Bradley credit for at least getting a good group of players going at halftime.

Players like Dempsey, Landon and Bradley have done us proud. And I thank them for their effort. Cannot wait until 2014.
:tup:
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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And congrats to Ghana. Even though they milked the extra time to their best ability, they took their chances. We couldn't handle their speed and physicality. Hopefully Uruguay beats them as they have the better attack.

Michael Bradley was probably our best player. Did he really run 16KM this match? He was all over the place, and I guess he justified his dad starting him nonstop. Mikey did well and he's a great midfield general to have in there, especially in his forward runs. He's probably our best young player.
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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How come when De rossi falls over against New Zealand he is vilified but everybody rushes to defend Torres for that?

There is no contact in either incident and Torres even gets an opposing player sent off for it.
I didn't see the De Rossi - New Zealand incident and i do think Torres is one of those players that i would classify as a diver, yet i am still not convinced that he dived in that incident.
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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Cos everyone's biased against Italy. I had the same argument in another forum. They said the Italians have made diving and cheating part of their gameplay. I tried to explain that it's the players that dive, and not the "team". They didn't buy it. Now I started posting the diving gifs and comment when they dive during a match. Now no one replies to me!

They're all biased!

Italy is a pretty disgusting NT to be honest. I don't blame you for not seeing that :D
 
Apr 15, 2006
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I'm not completely bald...


...not yet! :sad:
I didn't see the De Rossi - New Zealand incident and i do think Torres is one of those players that i would classify as a diver, yet i am still not convinced that he dived in that incident.
BIASED!
Italy is a pretty disgusting NT to be honest. I don't blame you for not seeing that :D
Italy aren't the only team that's disgusting. There's certainly many more. I don't blame you for not seeing that :D
 

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