WC 2006: Group C (3 Viewers)

Which two teams will go through?

  • Argentina

  • Côte d'Ivoire

  • Serbia and Montenegro

  • Netherlands


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Slagathor

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Jul 25, 2001
22,708
#61
A MESSY ENCOUNTER

The opening match to the World Cup is unlikely to boast brilliant football when Germany take on Costa Rica. The opening match for the Serbians and Dutch is unlikely to be much better. The biggest asset the Serbians possess is their incredible defence, the best thing about the Dutch is their attacking play. We've seen a match with the same outlines before when the two teams met in the quarterfinal of Euro2000 with the important differences that the Serbians were weaker than they are now, and the Dutch are weaker now then they were back then. As such that match won't be of much value when predicting the outcome of the upcoming encounter. If anything, the match that followed between Italy and Holland will be a much better example, and not just because it will also be lead by referee Markus Merk.

The Serbians conceded an amazing total of 1 (one!) goal during their entire qualification series. Not in the least because of star defender Dragutinovic, who doesn't even need to lift his game to be confident in keeping the Serbian door firmly shut.

Not that the Dutch conceded many more, but their defense is barely worthy of wearing the famous orange shirt. Their low amount of goals conceded in qualifying is due to a combination of luck and a superbly keeping Edwin van der Sar.

So what else do we know? Well, we know that Marco van Basten will instruct his team to come out storming trying to get an early goal. And they might score, but more likely they won't. With all their attacking flair, the Dutch struggle to find the net and famously need a lot of chances to get a goal. They won't get many chances against the Serbs.

Neither will the Serbs themselves, in all likeliness. They are likely to start Kezman and Milosevic, who are more than capable of finding their way around the Dutch defenders, but in order to score they will need the ball.

The Serbian problem lies in midfield. Barring Dejan Stankovic, the Serbian midfielders are inferior in individual skill to their Dutch counterparts. Assuming Cocu, Van Bommel and Van der Vaart will be fit to play as Van Basten announced earlier today. Bridging the gap and getting the ball to the forwards might be a fundamental problem for the Serbians and the Dutch defense might have it relatively easy. With Van der Sar in the goal, they could indeed succeed in fending off the couple of chances the Serbs will get.

This match might be decided in the first half hour. The Dutch will come out attacking and if they manage to get a goal they are likely to hold on for a win. However, the Dutch struggle against firmly defending sides like Italy on Euro2000 and Australia last Sunday. If the Serbians manage to sufficiently disrupt the Dutch style of play and keep it up, the game is in their hands. The Dutch will need to rise to the occasion and better their recent performances if they are going to win it, but the Serbs are lacking in midfield strength and might find it equally hard to get on the scoresheet.

Serbia & Montenegro versus the Netherlands is unlikely to feature many goals or fluent, attractive play. A messy draw appears to be on the cards, unless one of the teams can get a goal, somewhere, somehow.
 

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May 27, 2006
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#64
Ivory coast showed a great display of football against argentina :) nut they lost, anyway i think serbia and montenegro altough a well organized team, very tall, dont have a leader like all great teams do. Netherlands r a very fast and wellmixed group... but not a team. ivory coast just showed they r in much better physical conditions than any other team that has played so far (including germany), but they were nervous and tried to play to something they didnt know how to. Argentina is a 2 times WC champions, well organized, has the southamerican heart and the european diciplene, but they lack a bit of focus in some crucial stages of the match. Ithink argentine and netherlands. but i think would be nice if ivory coast passes
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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#65
Personally I thought Ivory Coast would have played better and their attacks were rather disapointing. Kalou was seemingly out of place up there and for some reason the Elephants looked sluggish in attack until they brought on Kone. Akale and Boka looked good on the left flank, however Eboue and Keita were absolutely useless. Drogba was doing all the work in attack while Zokora and Yaya Toure were out of ideas in midfield. Argentina ran the show essentially and were clearly the better side on the night.
 

swag

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Sep 23, 2003
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#66
Some of the Ivory Coast squad's crosses were just dreadful. But they had a number of spot-on, clever work in the box that met with just some off luck of the draw. They've put up great competition for a losing side today. I was surprised at how much ball control they got against the Argentine defense. When Cambiasso plays for Inter, you know he's on the pitch. I didn't notice him out there today.

The Elephants were among what I thought were the strongest performances of the 10 NTs thus far with the exception of Argentina and maybe Germany. I still think they have a fighting chance in this group of death.
 

sateeh

Day Walker
Jul 28, 2003
8,020
#67
Ivory Coast have a chance for sure, but they will need to put their chances away as u cant miss those chances u get they did.They will need to be more clinical.

Argentians showed their imo, and i think their performance is the most solid one from all the top teams. Still there r some questions over peckerman, i dont know wat the guy is doing with his subs.

Looking forward to the holland game tonite
 

denco

Superior Being
Jul 12, 2002
4,679
#68
Best game so far with 2 sides commited to win. Argentina just shaded it but ivory coast were excellent. Drogba just a lion and inspiration to his team mates
Pekerman did say Saviola works better with Crespo and Riqelme and that proved right, great management there. I wish other manager dod the same instead of packing team with names not compatibility. Then he blots his copy book with his substitutions which imo were poor. I mean what was Luis Gonzales doing there. I dont even know who he is
But the tempo was frantic and we may have seen the first bad call of the wc as i believ Ayala scored a legit goal. He and Heinze were awesome in defence but Burdiso is a huge liability and he may cost them dear
 
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  • Thread Starter #69
    denco said:
    Best game so far with 2 sides commited to win. Argentina just shaded it but ivory coast were excellent. Drogba just a lion and inspiration to his team mates
    Pekerman did say Saviola works better with Crespo and Riqelme and that proved right, great management there. I wish other manager dod the same instead of packing team with names not compatibility. Then he blots his copy book with his substitutions which imo were poor. I mean what was Luis Gonzales doing there. I dont even know who he is
    But the tempo was frantic and we may have seen the first bad call of the wc as i believ Ayala scored a legit goal. He and Heinze were awesome in defence but Burdiso is a huge liability and he may cost them dear
    Do you mean the goal from the corner? I am not sure what the law says, a big part of the ball went in but not all of it. If we get a clear description as to when the ball is considered in, then we can draw a conclusion of the situation.
     

    Slagathor

    Bedpan racing champion
    Jul 25, 2001
    22,708
    #71
    What the statistics say

    Stress is on the cards for Dutch fan legion


    In 1978 the Dutch national team had a flying start to their World Cup campaign versus Iran, winning three goals to nil. It was to be the last time the Dutch comfortably won their opening match. However, a bad start didn't always end up having catastrophic consequences.

    The victories are prominent in the Dutch history of opening games on major tournaments. In fourteen such games, the Oranje won six times and had to settle for a draw on four occasions.

    The last three World Cups showed a lack of confidence in the opening match for the Dutch. In 1990 the fortunate 1-1 draw against Egypt was a sign of things to come in a dreadful campagin. Four years later the lucky 2-1 victory over Saudi-Arabia eventually allowed for the Dutch to reach the quarter-finals. And despite a red card for Patrick Kluivert against Belgium in 1998, the Dutch managed to draw their Southern neighbours and go as far as the semi-final.

    Stress and the Netherlands. It's a love-hate relationship.

    Source: www.vi.nl
     

    3pac

    Alex Del Mexico
    May 7, 2004
    7,206
    #72
    Jeeks said:
    Do you mean the goal from the corner? I am not sure what the law says, a big part of the ball went in but not all of it. If we get a clear description as to when the ball is considered in, then we can draw a conclusion of the situation.

    the rules say it must be 100% over the plane of the line
    I am positive of this.
     

    sateeh

    Day Walker
    Jul 28, 2003
    8,020
    #79
    good game by the dutch, robben was good but he was just too selfish , thats his biggest problem. I wanted to see VDV but he wasnt introduced in the 2nd half :(

    will be an interesting one between the dutch and the argentians though
     

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