Was 2007 the worst Mercato summer in Juve's recent history? (11 Viewers)

Was 2007 the worst Mercato summer in Juve's recent history?

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Jul 24, 2006
381
#61
I had to say no because of the condition we were in financially and with no CL. We saw many potential 1st XI targets move instead to sit on CL- team benches so no real doubt what hamstrung this year's mercato.

The relative failings of Almiron and Tiago make this year look a lot worse than it was. Have to include the re-signing of Buffon and Trez which has been the making of our good form in Serie A so far.
 

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Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,519
#62
For the guys who have answered NO,
i would really like to see whats the year you think, we ever had a worse transfer campaign than this, almost every single transfer we did, this year, was a failure,
when such a thing was repeated in the past? (i can remember a few years that came close)
We are not speaking about a single transfer, of a single player, but about for all of them and you must also keep in mind the expected importance of the obtained player. We cannot compare a failed sub with a failed, "supposed", starter...
 
Jul 24, 2006
381
#64
00/01 pretty bad. The next Rob Carlos (Athirson) and the new Zizou (O'Neill) plus Paramatti and Carini who was tipped to be a great. Bearing in mind this was a year that we were supposedly increasing our squad for a CL trophy push..

Mercato that year forced Zizou's hand to leave (upon signing Buffon, Nedved etc he comments: a shame they couldn't have done those sorts of moves when I was there).

Compare this year, newly promoted team re-signs the greatest GK of the modern age as well as several Italy WC champions and the highest foreign scorer in the club's history and adds CL experienced subs in Grygera and Sali as well as some promising younger players. We also keep Chiellini through a tough negotiation who is looking more and more world class as the season progresses. Compare our influx of players to Napoli who were in the same boat as us and we are looking pretty damn good IMO.
 

Mike-e-y

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2004
11,188
#65
last year was a lot worse considering we signed only boomsong, but this year has been dreadful, iaquinta is the only signing worthy of juventus and he is the one we all questioned. Lets hop we fix these problems in january
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,519
#68
00/01 pretty bad. The next Rob Carlos (Athirson) and the new Zizou (O'Neill) plus Paramatti and Carini who was tipped to be a great. Bearing in mind this was a year that we were supposedly increasing our squad for a CL trophy push..
These were all mentioned to be subs, we already had Zidanne, Davids, Conte, Maresca and Tacchi. Its much more difficult for those players to shine against established players, they were a calculated risk and the loses werent that bad.
We spent peanuts to get them, Moggi was able to sign them without extra money from the Agnelli's.
On the contrary, we spent 40 mill on 3-4 players, of similar material for some players that would supposed to be starters... thats a real blow that matters for the performance of our team!
(about Carini)
We dont have any better keeper subs right now and wont be able to ever swap Belardi with a Cannavaro...

Mercato that year forced Zizou's hand to leave (upon signing Buffon, Nedved etc he comments: a shame they couldn't have done those sorts of moves when I was there).
They didnt forced him to play horrible and get all those red cards, he just had an off season and there was a series of external reasons that forced our decline, the performance of all the team was also influenced by these reasons. A flop is when a good player fails to do what another player (not that good on theory) is able to do under the same or similar circumstances. Zidanne had his very own reasons to leave us, he lost his motivation, he wasnt effective any more, he was dreaming of a team that would be able to hand him glamour and titles with the minimum efforts, his wife recommandations convinced him to leave us...
Besides we couldnt afford an all star team back then, we couldnt sign them without the financial boost his departure gave us. It wasnt a problem of choices or wrong decisions...

Compare this year, newly promoted team re-signs the greatest GK of the modern age as well as several Italy WC champions and the highest foreign scorer in the club's history and adds CL experienced subs in Grygera and Sali as well as some promising younger players. We also keep Chiellini through a tough negotiation who is looking more and more world class as the season progresses. Compare our influx of players to Napoli who were in the same boat as us and we are looking pretty damn good IMO.
We are Juventus FFS, keeping all our stars would be a success, but we failed that miserable, you picked up the wrong excuse, we sold half of our team last year with minimum prizes. But we were forced to do and lets assume we had no other choice. BUT this year we had the financial power to keep them, (the proof is that we did kept them after all) This year we had a full transfer season to hunt some targets and even sell some of our stars who valued their wages more than their Juventini hearts, we had the time to negociate and sell them, for a reasonable price and replace them with younger material.
It was our choice to keep them,from the start, all these scandals and the risk to lose some of them in the end, was another fiasco with a cost to our stability and also damaged our image. If you really think that DP and Neddy would leave Juve, you are wrong, why would they provoke a scandal and harm us?
If those players really wanted to leave us, our current managers would stop them!
Esp Buffon, it was HIS choice to stay, not Secco's skills to keep him!
We can always try and find a positive point of view on everything, but thats just hilarious...
Grygera and Salih were the last Moggi deals, they were pre-contacted before the beginning of the transfer period, they didnt concerned Secco's time, they were just an extra added boost, won by Juve's name alone, not because of the managerial skills of our noob managers.
Our noob managers were "owned" in every single transfer negociation they got involved, they paid super sums for unproven players and even huge sums for the players we already half-owned!
Instead of paying 40-50 mil for Tiago+Almiron+Andrade+Criscito, they could bring in Milito and Mascherano with the same cash, that was their choice, they were not forced to do that...they had no excuses this year, go ahead and excuse them for the next century if you wish!
Dont forget that the brand Juventus, if it is used properly, has enormous potential, a potential that no other newly promovated team has, not even a serie A mid-class team, can be compared with our current potential and financial status. And dont get me started with the Fiorentina deals,
we have NEVER been owned that much before!
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,994
#70
Instead of paying 40-50 mil for Tiago+Almiron+Andrade+Criscito, they could bring in Milito and Mascherano with the same cash, that was their choice, they were not forced to do that...they had no excuses this year, go ahead and excuse them for the next century if you wish!
Cronios, we played 14 matches so far.
To tell you guys how unfair and not logical it is to ask this question i'll use an example :
In 2001 we sold Zidane for 66m eur and we replaced him (his position in the field) with a 40m EUR purchase called Pavel Nedved.
What did you guys think of Nedved after the opening 14 rounds in season 2001/02 ? The greatest flop in Juve's history and the worst transfer we made, right ?

It's too early to call this summer's mercato the worst one in our history. We can tell that only after the season ends and we have almost 2/3 of the season left.

As for the quoted part, i wrote a post few days ago where i think i explained why we did what we did this summer.
http://www.juventuz.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1512925&postcount=167
 

tassard

Senior Member
Jul 30, 2004
6,842
#72
the 2003 summer transfer campaign was worse.Think about it, we bought 4 players Appiah,Maresca,Legro and Miccoli.Only Legro is with us now...
 

swag

L'autista
Administrator
Sep 23, 2003
84,776
#74
I personally rate Appiah and Maresca above Tiago and Almiron.
Appiah had two good games just before we traded him. But it wasn't entirely Appiah's fault, as this team has tried to turn just about anyone creative in midfield into a DM. But for what I've seen of the games where they actually made it to the pitch, both Tiago and Almiron have had a higher success rate than Appiah did.
 
Dec 6, 2007
151
#76
idk if anyone said Henry..but, when we got him on loan from arsenal he wasnt great yet still young we should of bought him or buy out his contract it would of been great to have henry around 2004-2005 when he was voted the best footballer....
 
Dec 6, 2007
151
#79
remember, dp got hurt in the 98 season and we required henry we bought him to replace dp for a sum of like 10.5 million..iam prettty sure it was from MONACOsry guys my fault...
he still talks about his spell with juventus and the team
 

Luftwaffles

Il terzo uomo
Dec 1, 2005
5,055
#80
you may have forgotten last year.

IN:Boumsong, Marchionni, Bojinov

OUT: Canna, Zambro, Thuram, Zlatan, Vieira, Mutu, Emerson, Giannichedda.
This reasoning has to be put into perspective.

Remember, Juventus planned on the basis of doing enough to get promoted
folllowing the massive loss of revenue following relegation.

It must also be borne in mind that few ambitious international-class players would not be tempted by playing in Serie B for a least one season.

We must also recognize that Frank Lampard, has informally stated to Cobolli-Gigli that he would be prepared to come to Juventus if:-

1. We match his pay request of £4.7m per annum ( Buffon is only on £4m)
2. We qualify for the Champions League for the 2008/2009 season.

Last years signings should not be included.
 

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