Was 2007 the worst Mercato summer in Juve's recent history? (18 Viewers)

Was 2007 the worst Mercato summer in Juve's recent history?

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swag

L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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#47
I don't know. Could you really say that this year was worse than the summer of 2006?

We're comparing apples to flashlights.
 
Jan 7, 2004
29,704
#48
i disagree that the mercato was bad last year, we had different objectives and the sale of those players filled those objectives

and this year our objective was to build the team again, and honestly you cant just expect to build a team in one summer, look at why inter and milan are so different, one changes constantly while the other remains the same

the only mistake we did this year was buying two very similar players ie tiago and almiron
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
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#49
Sale of Thuram did not fill anything though. We could have kept him instead of buying Boumsong (as I think Thuram was forced to be sold to leave as part of us giving Barca Zambro no?)
 

swag

L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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#50
i disagree that the mercato was bad last year, we had different objectives and the sale of those players filled those objectives

and this year our objective was to build the team again, and honestly you cant just expect to build a team in one summer, look at why inter and milan are so different, one changes constantly while the other remains the same

the only mistake we did this year was buying two very similar players ie tiago and almiron
That's my point. The objectives are different. We could land a bunch of great players in one year, but that's meaningless if they're all on the bench and we spend the season languishing for lack of any real starters or depth at a position that becomes our Achilles Heel in the standings later on. What good is a transfer strategy like Real Madrid's when they end up overloaded with 14 fabulous strikers, can't field more than 3 reasonably at a time, and they're getting their asses kicked because they have nobody covering defense?

The best measure of a transfer strategy, IMO, is how it helps adjust for the previous season's gaps -- and for player departures -- and how that helps you in the standings or in relevant tournaments.

And it's complete hindsight to suggest that we should have predicted that players like Andrade were going to split their knee cap in half.
 
Jan 7, 2004
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#51
Sale of Thuram did not fill anything though. We could have kept him instead of buying Boumsong (as I think Thuram was forced to be sold to leave as part of us giving Barca Zambro no?)

how much money did juve loose that summer? let's say it was 50 million, thuram's wages were 5 million. look at it as saving those 5 million. plus didnt everyone here just bitch on how thuram didnt want to stay
 
Jan 7, 2004
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#52
The best measure of a transfer strategy, IMO, is how it helps adjust for the previous season's gaps -- and for player departures -- and how that helps you in the standings or in relevant tournaments.
when you look at it this way, the last two years have not been so bad. i would factor in a cost-benefit analysis somewhere in there though
 

swag

L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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#53
when you look at it this way, the last two years have not been so bad. i would factor in a cost-benefit analysis somewhere in there though
I don't think it's been so terrible -- that's where I'm coming from. Though I agree on the cost-benefit part. The Real Madrids should often come out on the losing end by spending like drunken sailors on shore leave for players past their prime.
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
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#55
how much money did juve loose that summer? let's say it was 50 million, thuram's wages were 5 million. look at it as saving those 5 million. plus didnt everyone here just bitch on how thuram didnt want to stay

but we're paying 2.5 M for Boumsong. and Boumsong's transfer fee was just a little less than what Barca paid for Thuram. 2.5 M more wouldn't have broken our backs for Thuram.

Had we Thuram (even this old dinosaur Thuram) we could have had a leader in the defense, solved our defensive problems to some extent and not wasted 12 million on Andrade.
 
Jan 7, 2004
29,704
#57
but we're paying 2.5 M for Boumsong. and Boumsong's transfer fee was just a little less than what Barca paid for Thuram. 2.5 M more wouldn't have broken our backs for Thuram.

Had we Thuram (even this old dinosaur Thuram) we could have had a leader in the defense, solved our defensive problems to some extent and not wasted 12 million on Andrade.

i see what you mean, i guess deshamps had a big effect on that decision then , which seems to have been made more out of emotions rather than calculations
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
#59
thats a good way of looking at it..but you're ignoring the fact that he wanted to leave.

I was basing my agument assuming that he didn't want to leave. If he did then ignore my argument (though I still feel we could have forced him to stay a la Trez/Camo)
 

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