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IrishZebra

Western Imperialist
Jun 18, 2006
23,327
#22
you really believe that life just existed on its own? one day there were a few microogranisms and now there's planets? seriously? if anything this is the dumbest theory ever.. who created those organisms and where did they come from?
Stands of proteins composed of different chemicals radomly stringing together until a functioning organism made of basic lipids emerged?
 

Naggar

Bianconero
Sep 4, 2007
3,494
#23
life as in living vs non-living... yes it happened on its own... its a product of nature not a product of magical creation.
That theory isn't fully proven, just like evolution, therefore can't build an argument on it
I support freedom of belief, but not to use science as a way to attack religion because simply science doesn't oppose religion as some people think, religion supports science greatly as a matter of fact and you know well about the scientific facts in Qur'an hundreds of years before they were proven

nature didn't create itself or any living beings, a higher power did, to me that makes most sense and the rest is up to belief.

It doesn't say humans are special? Really? But more importantly, I'd consider it a lie by omission. I mean, the book's goal is to explain the universe to us and it didn't mention that there's life on other planets too?

The book's goal isn't to explain the universe to us, it's to guide us away from "sins" and anything bad that could happen to us, to reach peace of mind and soul and to to go heaven on judgement day, of course.
I understand this all means nothing to a disbeliever but I just had to explain the book's goal
God sent it to guide humans, only.
nothing denies that there are aliens, and he could've sent a book to aliens in their langauges and cultures, who knows? and who said we own the universe? the only things that makes us superior from all livings is having the brain, but thats it, and from the way we use it I see that animals are living a lot better and haven't harmed the planet at all but look at what we've done with our superior genius.
God says:
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YUSUFALI: Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation), before we clove them asunder? We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?

find me life anywhere.. whether its on Earth or on Saturn, where there are livings and there isn't water, and I'll let you doubt my beliefs

at the end, personally, I don't think the whole universe was created aimlessly, there must be a reason that we're ignorant of and I like to think there is a different form of life

As for your silly argument that someone must have created the organisms in the first place.. well by that reasoning someone must have created that someone too and another someone that someone.

If it's faith that's okay, but you should leave it at that. You can't logically conclude the existence of a supreme being.
I think of it the same was prophet Ibrahim "Abraham" PBUH did
saw his people worshiping statues as symbols of religious beliefs, he thought of higher powers as stars, then the moon, then the brightest of all the sun (as some people believe in nature creating everything on its own) but that all didn't make sense since this all had their powers part-time of the day, there must be a higher power that created all this
and that's a matter of belief, of course
but it's not a silly argument, I have my reasons and my beliefs to stick with, and honestly if you can't respect that then you don't deserve being replied to


Stands of proteins composed of different chemicals radomly stringing together until a functioning organism made of basic lipids emerged?
Yeah, that is scientific facts I agree with, but then again who created proteins?
and it brings us back to evolution the unfully proven theory, where I choose to believe that God created everything the way it is, proteins, planets and humans
or even aliens if they existed
and here's where faith and belief comes in
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
115,904
#24
you really believe that life just existed on its own? one day there were a few microogranisms and now there's planets? seriously? if anything this is the dumbest theory ever.. who created those organisms and where did they come from?
As if it's so "smart" to believe in some "God" who supposedly claims he loves us, but then punishes us for our sins which by definition he created.

Yes, such an intelligent theory... for tards.

But I'm sure he's out there, flying around in his saucer in outer space, making important decisions like the acceleration of gravity should be no less or no more than 9.8 m/s^2.
 

Naggar

Bianconero
Sep 4, 2007
3,494
#27
As if it's so "smart" to believe in some "God" who supposedly claims he loves us, but then punishes us for our sins which by definition he created.

Yes, such an intelligent theory... for tards.

But I'm sure he's out there, flying around in his saucer in outer space, making important decisions like the acceleration of gravity should be no less or no more than 9.8 m/s^2.
A parent decides whats good and whats bad for their kids and punish them upon it, why is that acceptable but when it comes to religion it's not?
God doesn't punish people for the sake of it, it's at the end to show you the right path, and either way, no matter how much you sin as long as you believe in him you'll end up in heaven (in Islam) but how much you sinned is what differs one from another in the time spent before heaven
it gives noone the right to judge another

Don't insult people because you disagree with them, that's very childish


Look if you choose to disbelieve thats totally up to you, but we're talking science here, I find it rediculous that microrganisms through evolution became all kinds of livings and planets, and you might find beliefs silly, but the theory I believe in satisfies me enough and makes more sense to me, and I didn't insult any of you or forced you to agree with me, so just chill and try to be more open minded.
 

JuveJay

Senior Signor
Moderator
Mar 6, 2007
74,882
#28
I find it rediculous that microrganisms through evolution became all kinds of livings and planets
Why? You think that God placed creatures and plants onto Earth? Are religious people still doubting evolution, really?
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
115,904
#30
A parent decides whats good and whats bad for their kids and punish them upon it, why is that acceptable but when it comes to religion it's not?
God doesn't punish people for the sake of it, it's at the end to show you the right path, and either way, no matter how much you sin as long as you believe in him you'll end up in heaven (in Islam) but how much you sinned is what differs one from another in the time spent before heaven
it gives noone the right to judge another
Then God is a hypocrite AND an idiot.

He doesn't even follow his own rules.

And folks believe in this douche?

Don't insult people because you disagree with them, that's very childish
Shove it, literally. You just said a matter of popular scientific belief is one of the "dumbest theories ever."


Look if you choose to disbelieve thats totally up to you, but we're talking science here, I find it rediculous that microrganisms through evolution became all kinds of livings and planets, and you might find beliefs silly, but the theory I believe in satisfies me enough and makes more sense to me, and I didn't insult any of you or forced you to agree with me, so just chill and try to be more open minded.
There is solid proof of evolution, unlike this God theory.
 

mikhail

Senior Member
Jan 24, 2003
9,576
#31
Shove it, literally. You just said a matter of popular scientific belief is one of the "dumbest theories ever."
Your reaction to him doesn't exactly shine a halo on you either. Yeah, he said something you think is pretty silly. Deal with it. Or, hey, show yourself up as a nasty piece of work and call him a retard. Whatever works for you.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
115,904
#32
Your reaction to him doesn't exactly shine a halo on you either. Yeah, he said something you think is pretty silly. Deal with it. Or, hey, show yourself up as a nasty piece of work and call him a retard. Whatever works for you.
I'm through with showing people like that common courtesy.
 

Zé Tahir

JhoolayLaaaal!
Moderator
Dec 10, 2004
29,281
#34
Not all religions deny evolution, at least mine doesn't.

The Qur'an does mention life on other planets...and it did it 1400+ years ago :)
 

Naggar

Bianconero
Sep 4, 2007
3,494
#36
Why? You think that God placed creatures and plants onto Earth? Are religious people still doubting evolution, really?
I didn't deny evolution totally, I said it isn't completely proven.
Religion doesn't oppose evolution completely, God created microorganisms way before humans, perhaps evolution happened and then whats mentioned in Qur'an also happened (as in Adam and Eve being sent to Earth and starting life) with the other livings
maybe one of the human races came from apes or whatever, but I'm pretty sure according to beliefs that Adam was created, and humans came from that descent

You just said a matter of popular scientific belief is one of the "dumbest theories ever."
I believe Louis Pasteur had a similar argument and was laughed at by the entire community, then was proved right
human arrogance is unbelievable, always thinking what science has reached at your time is the absolutle facts of life, then something else comes and proves you were still ignorant

There is solid proof of evolution
There isn't.
I studied it and I am still, when it's fully proven you can say that.


The Qur'an does mention life on other planets...and it did it 1400+ years ago.
Where exactly if you don't mind? I honestly don't recall that
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
115,904
#38
I believe Louis Pasteur had a similar argument and was laughed at by the entire community, then was proved right
human arrogance is unbelievable, always thinking what science has reached at your time is the absolutle facts of life, then something else comes and proves you were still ignorant
Then prove your God exists, putting this "demon" of science to rest.
 

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