Violence could halt Italian football/Calcio suspended (1 Viewer)
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This is a possible short term solution, but you can't do this for a year. Authorities need to get their act together more quickly.
Including the European Human Rights Act - Denying people (in this case footballers) the right to work!
Some great posts there Bisco, but I have to spread the +reps before +repping you again.
Me neither!
Perhaps we should make a list of suggestions to help them speed up the process & send it to them. For example: -
Including the European Human Rights Act - Denying people (in this case footballers) the right to work!
Some great posts there Bisco, but I have to spread the +reps before +repping you again.
As much as I want all this violence to end, I don't think I'd be able to go a year without Juve.
Perhaps we should make a list of suggestions to help them speed up the process & send it to them. For example: -
- Under legislation, court orders banning trouble-makers from being anywhere near football grounds & having to report to police stations in their home town at a time which is during the match.
- Under clubs - giving clubs the right to revoke trouble-makers' season tickets.
etc. - Give police resources to help them identify trouble-makers, especially the ring-leaders & get them to liaise with police from other countries to see how what means they have available to them & how they cope.
i agree there are just tooooooo many rules badass devil, but at the end of the day u r 100% sure u will return back home safely with out a scratch.
i know not being allowed to say curses may be a bit harsh but if u think carefully its these curses that get things started, first it starts with curses and harsh words being exchanged by both set of supporters then these feelings of haterd accelerate until things go in the danger zone when its by then tooo late to handle and the outcomes are just unexpected, so i can understand clearly why curses are banned.
i think these strict rules are fair to every one at the end of the day. its fair for the plaers, team supporters, policemen, and every other person involved in the stadium. supporters who just go out with rage to kill, and destroy innocent lives are a disgrace to the civilized world, none of them think that maybe the policeman who they killed has a family to support and care for. all they think about is taking there rage out on some innocent person.
i know not being allowed to say curses may be a bit harsh but if u think carefully its these curses that get things started, first it starts with curses and harsh words being exchanged by both set of supporters then these feelings of haterd accelerate until things go in the danger zone when its by then tooo late to handle and the outcomes are just unexpected, so i can understand clearly why curses are banned.
i think these strict rules are fair to every one at the end of the day. its fair for the plaers, team supporters, policemen, and every other person involved in the stadium. supporters who just go out with rage to kill, and destroy innocent lives are a disgrace to the civilized world, none of them think that maybe the policeman who they killed has a family to support and care for. all they think about is taking there rage out on some innocent person.
what a stupid idea, this is just going to piss the hooligans off and people will gather outside the stadium not to mention the huge loss clubs will incur from ticket sales and its punishing fans that have behaved themselves, if they enforce this they are stupid, the solution is to stop people from taking certain items into the stadium
i don't think they stop the season i know it sounds hard but the show must go on. to much money etc in the game
but how do u want to stop riots? it's not possible. they can make the stadiums safty but these idiots will find a way.... the only way is to change their mind.
maybe the reason why it was in catania is because the south of italy has more problems with money and work...
so for me it's most a social problem these guys have nothing to do with football
but how do u want to stop riots? it's not possible. they can make the stadiums safty but these idiots will find a way.... the only way is to change their mind.
maybe the reason why it was in catania is because the south of italy has more problems with money and work...
so for me it's most a social problem these guys have nothing to do with football
Serie C call for long-term hiatus
Saturday 3 February, 2007
Italian football should be suspended for two years to put an end to the violence, insists Serie C Lega Calcio President Mario Macalli.
“A week won’t make any difference. We have to stop for a year or two,” announced the representative of the Third Division clubs.
While FIGC Commissioner Luca Pancalli has called an indefinite halt to football in Italy, most believe normal service will resume within a fortnight after rioting outside Catania-Palermo cost 38-year-old Chief Inspector Filippo Raciti his life.
“The only solution is to stay out of sport until necessary, even if that means two years, because this is no longer football,” slammed Macalli.
“Those charlatans must learn to keep quiet for once. Last week a man in the amateur Leagues was beaten to death, has that been forgotten already? Have you never seen the youth team games in the mornings? There are commentators out there who haven’t been to a match in 30 years and are still expressing their opinions on it.”
The Catania riots came hot on the heels of another tragic incident, as last weekend the director of Calabrian club Sammartinese died from a brain haemorrhage after he tried to sedate a brawl between players. It later emerged he had been kicked in the head.
“Pancalli did very well to suspend the sport, but seven days won’t achieve anything. There simply aren’t the conditions allowing us to continue our work. The solution has to be found within the Government, as when they pass a law, they must then force it to be respected.”
The Legge Pisanu has failed to solve the hooligan problem in the peninsula, but Macalli warns the real issue is the failure to keep known offenders under lock and key.
“The English system for clamping down on hooligans worked because they took it seriously. When someone makes a mistake there, they pay the price, but in Italy nobody ever pays. The Curva is a law unto itself and for too long the media has aided, abetted and even applauded the use of flares and insulting banners.”
As President of the Serie C Lega Calcio, Macalli pointed out the massive discrepancy between the top two tiers and the rest of the sport, as a halt to the season would cost clubs in television rights revenue.
“Football is something else, it’s 90 clubs in Serie C, several thousand in the Amateur Leagues, not just 20 sides. We couldn’t care less about television rights. The media always talk about those Presidents who reap the profits, not of those who pour cash in out of sheer passion.
“If Alessandro Del Piero has an ingrown toenail, it’s front page news, but a President who puts in £2m from his own pocket every season isn’t of interest to the papers. This isn’t what football is about.”
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Saturday 3 February, 2007
Italian football should be suspended for two years to put an end to the violence, insists Serie C Lega Calcio President Mario Macalli.
“A week won’t make any difference. We have to stop for a year or two,” announced the representative of the Third Division clubs.
While FIGC Commissioner Luca Pancalli has called an indefinite halt to football in Italy, most believe normal service will resume within a fortnight after rioting outside Catania-Palermo cost 38-year-old Chief Inspector Filippo Raciti his life.
“The only solution is to stay out of sport until necessary, even if that means two years, because this is no longer football,” slammed Macalli.
“Those charlatans must learn to keep quiet for once. Last week a man in the amateur Leagues was beaten to death, has that been forgotten already? Have you never seen the youth team games in the mornings? There are commentators out there who haven’t been to a match in 30 years and are still expressing their opinions on it.”
The Catania riots came hot on the heels of another tragic incident, as last weekend the director of Calabrian club Sammartinese died from a brain haemorrhage after he tried to sedate a brawl between players. It later emerged he had been kicked in the head.
“Pancalli did very well to suspend the sport, but seven days won’t achieve anything. There simply aren’t the conditions allowing us to continue our work. The solution has to be found within the Government, as when they pass a law, they must then force it to be respected.”
The Legge Pisanu has failed to solve the hooligan problem in the peninsula, but Macalli warns the real issue is the failure to keep known offenders under lock and key.
“The English system for clamping down on hooligans worked because they took it seriously. When someone makes a mistake there, they pay the price, but in Italy nobody ever pays. The Curva is a law unto itself and for too long the media has aided, abetted and even applauded the use of flares and insulting banners.”
As President of the Serie C Lega Calcio, Macalli pointed out the massive discrepancy between the top two tiers and the rest of the sport, as a halt to the season would cost clubs in television rights revenue.
“Football is something else, it’s 90 clubs in Serie C, several thousand in the Amateur Leagues, not just 20 sides. We couldn’t care less about television rights. The media always talk about those Presidents who reap the profits, not of those who pour cash in out of sheer passion.
“If Alessandro Del Piero has an ingrown toenail, it’s front page news, but a President who puts in £2m from his own pocket every season isn’t of interest to the papers. This isn’t what football is about.”
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Idiot.
You know what astonishes me about all this? That players still have the guts to go out there and play their game and that policemen still are willing to do their job.
There's also something else I find rather odd. Suddenly everyone jumps up to defend the Sicilians. I don't see why Sicilians would be any more agressive than other Italians, but defending them right now doesn't seem a very good option to me right now.
You know what astonishes me about all this? That players still have the guts to go out there and play their game and that policemen still are willing to do their job.
There's also something else I find rather odd. Suddenly everyone jumps up to defend the Sicilians. I don't see why Sicilians would be any more agressive than other Italians, but defending them right now doesn't seem a very good option to me right now.
Bravo for Italians' contrition
Say what you like about Italian football, currently presenting as shamed a face to the world as we did after the killing of 39 Juventus supporters at Heysel in 1985, but at least it has shown instant and unconditional contrition for the death of a policeman and 100 injuries at a Sicilian derby by tearing up the entire calendar, not only suspending all domestic competition this weekend but cancelling the international friendly against Romania due to take place in Siena on Wednesday. "Enough is enough,'' said the national commissioner, Luca Pancalli. "This is not a sport.''
In the wake of the horrors that preceded Liverpool's appearance in the 1985 European Cup final, you may recall, our FA rightly withdrew all English clubs from European competition- UEFA were to confirm the ban and make it indefinite- but allowed the national team to play on, even though England supporters already had a poor record and were to maintain it over several years by causing serious trouble in a variety of cities, including Dublin, where it was a miracle no policeman or member of the public suffered the fate of poor Filippo Raciti in Sicily last week.
At last, it appears, England's fans can be just about trusted and Steve McClaren was entitled to observe yesterday that "the Italians have a lot to learn from the English game'' at club level, where stadiums are indeed safer than two decades ago.
Perhaps at last Italian football, which has hardly distinguished itself in combating violence (or indeed racism) over recent years, and which has seen more than one of its clubs forced by UEFA to play behind closed doors, is to make a serious effort to follow suit. It must, if it is to remain in Europe's football community. But let us not be too smug. And let us remember that the level of civilisation our football enjoys- and, to keep matters in proportion, it is still hardly enough to make a rugby fan swoon- was reached from what the Italians, of all people, have reason to recall as a hideously low base.
By Patrick Barclay
Say what you like about Italian football, currently presenting as shamed a face to the world as we did after the killing of 39 Juventus supporters at Heysel in 1985, but at least it has shown instant and unconditional contrition for the death of a policeman and 100 injuries at a Sicilian derby by tearing up the entire calendar, not only suspending all domestic competition this weekend but cancelling the international friendly against Romania due to take place in Siena on Wednesday. "Enough is enough,'' said the national commissioner, Luca Pancalli. "This is not a sport.''
In the wake of the horrors that preceded Liverpool's appearance in the 1985 European Cup final, you may recall, our FA rightly withdrew all English clubs from European competition- UEFA were to confirm the ban and make it indefinite- but allowed the national team to play on, even though England supporters already had a poor record and were to maintain it over several years by causing serious trouble in a variety of cities, including Dublin, where it was a miracle no policeman or member of the public suffered the fate of poor Filippo Raciti in Sicily last week.
At last, it appears, England's fans can be just about trusted and Steve McClaren was entitled to observe yesterday that "the Italians have a lot to learn from the English game'' at club level, where stadiums are indeed safer than two decades ago.
Perhaps at last Italian football, which has hardly distinguished itself in combating violence (or indeed racism) over recent years, and which has seen more than one of its clubs forced by UEFA to play behind closed doors, is to make a serious effort to follow suit. It must, if it is to remain in Europe's football community. But let us not be too smug. And let us remember that the level of civilisation our football enjoys- and, to keep matters in proportion, it is still hardly enough to make a rugby fan swoon- was reached from what the Italians, of all people, have reason to recall as a hideously low base.
By Patrick Barclay