US Presidential Elections thread - the fate of the world to be decided (45 Viewers)

Who would you vote to be the next President of the United States?

  • John McCain

  • Barack Obama

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Vinman

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Jul 16, 2002
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What a load of piss and vomit, which is usually what we hear from somebody like Buchanan who doesn't understand anything out of the realm of his own conservative upbringing.

I will respond to each facet of his idiocy in due time.
I have made enough comments about these issues, and whether you agree or disagee, there are plenty of people out there who feel the same way....and I think it will show in the election
 

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Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known.
What an incredible paragraph! First off, Pat states that America is the best place for black "folks." Then he goes on to state how we brought these black "folks" over from Africa on slave ships. Yeah, clearly the best place for these black "folks" we considered as slaves. :lol2:

Moron. Moronic writing style to boot.

Wright ought to go down on his knees and thank God he is an American.
What if he was British or from France or lived a good life in another civilized country?

Second, no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the '60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream.
But you're forgetting that we put the African americans downstream in the first place. Hence why we had to pay reparations worth trillions to African American programs to absolve ourselves from our prior sins, which some morons still commit today in the form of... wait for it... blatant racism.

Lets not be mistaken here. I don't support a university such as Michigan giving an African American two points more than me because of his race. But we HAVE to remember that this beloved white America put the blacks in the place they're in now... without a fucking doubt. What we have done is like injecting someone with aids and giving them copious amounts of medication for it.

Churches, foundations, civic groups, schools and individuals all over America have donated time and money to support soup kitchens, adult education, day care, retirement and nursing homes for blacks.
So... blacks are the only people attending soup kitchens? Blacks are the only ones receiving money from churches, foundations, civic groups, schools, individuals, etc all over America?

:shifty:

We hear the grievances. Where is the gratitude?
You don't hear it because you don't interact with the black community because you're a stuck up white conservative bastard, Pat.

Let him go to Altoona and Johnstown , and ask the white kids in Catholic schools how many were visited lately by Ivy League recruiters handing out scholarships for "deserving" white kids.
:rofl2:

God, what a moron.

OBAMA HAS ALREADY BEEN TO ALTOONA AND JOHNSTON, YOU FUCKING CUNT! HOW DO I KNOW? BECAUSE I GO TO SCHOOL AT PENN STATE. AND YES, HE"S EVEN BEEN TO A CATHOLIC SCHOOL, YOU GODDAMN FOOL.

Is white America really responsible for the fact that the crime and incarceration rates for African-Americans are seven times those of white America ? Is it really white America 's fault that illegitimacy in the African-American community has hit 70 percent and the black dropout rate from high schools in some cities has reached 50 percent ?
Yes, it is our fault, because we initially put their families in those positions because they were slaves. That's the truth. Just like Native Americans, you push their faces down far enough in the dirt, they'll never be fully able to recover. With the stigma against blacks still strong in various parts of the nation, and unrecognized in even people who are tolerant of other cultures, we still have a problem on our hands.

The film Crash is certainly something that partly explains what happens in this country, from a racially oriented point of view. Whatever the case, Buchanan is a moron.

As for racism, its ugliest manifestation is in interracial crime, and especially interracial crimes of violence. Is Barack Obama aware that while white criminals choose black victims 3 percent of the time, black criminals choose white victims 45 percent of the time?

Is Barack aware that black-on-white rapes are 100 times more common than the reverse, that black-on-white robberies were 139 times as common in the first three years of this decade as the reverse?
I don't know if these statistics are true or not, but this moron fails to recognize one thing - there are more poor blacks in urban areas than white people. A poor black stealing from another poor black is only seen in drug issues.

And the biggest shame of this latest nonsense from Buchanan... the fact that he's using what Rev. Wright and others have said against Barack Obama. Just because Rev. Wright states something ridiculous doesn't mean Obama supports his statements. It's like one of Vinni's friends at the department castigating him for being friends with ME and using what I say about the police to act AGAINST Vinni because I don't always praise the police force.

This is how retarded this mess has become.

But thanks, Pat, for your words of condescending wisdom. Cunt.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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I have made enough comments about these issues, and whether you agree or disagee, there are plenty of people out there who feel the same way....and I think it will show in the election
I'm sorry, but Buchanan's statements have no substance. All he wrote was the usual white conservative response to anything that has to deal with the race issue. This crap is completely blind to the problems at hand, and yes, the problem is inherent racism in this country because that is partly what it was founded upon. Even people I know who are not racists whatsoever have racist tendencies, so it's very much like a paradox. A stigma still plagues this nation, and it's one we (whites) implemented in the first place.
 

Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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kudos to pat Buchanan for telling like it is :tup: -
First the utter tosh of propoganda that was that INANE mail makes you wonder, and now you say kudos to the indescrible human filth coming out of this mans mouth? (he is trying to sugar coat it, but its venom nontheless) Seriously, he said stuff like this and your reaction is KUDOS?????

First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known.

Second, no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the '60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream.


WTF is WRONG with you?
 

Zé Tahir

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Dec 10, 2004
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Kudos to Buchannon:

Jews shouldn't bitch about the holocaust because if it wasn't for Hitler and the Nazi's they wouldn't have a homeland today.

Native Americans should be ashamed to say anything bad about us Wasp's. We brought them civilization; hospitals, concrete, clothes, industries, telephones, railroads, etc. They have us to thank for it. So what if we have nearly annihilated their entire race and way of living. We did give them a place to live and a bunch of casinos so that they'll never get anywhere in life. We are so generous.

This guy is a genius.
 

Enron

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Oct 11, 2005
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I have made enough comments about these issues, and whether you agree or disagee, there are plenty of people out there who feel the same way....and I think it will show in the election
It's a simple issue of white entitlement in America. People like Buchanan feel that they have given so much to black america, that how dare black america begin to ask for more. To take more. To take white jobs, white money, white loans, white toilet paper, etc. The truth of the matter is that the United States is still a country where racism and bigotry are very prevalent. Maybe not as much as the 1950's or before, but race is still very much an issue in this country. There are many people who still believe that black people shouldn't have certain job positions because the certain position is above black stature. It's a sad fact, but it's true. White people can complain all they want about blacks getting all the good jobs, and blacks getting all the federal funding for college. But in reality, the statistics show that there are more white kids in college than black kids and the wealthiest of our society are indeed white.

Lets be honest, how many white owned business and white colleges would hire or accept black employees or students on equal basis as white students if they didn't have to? I think we all know the answer.
 

Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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Kudos to Buchannon:

Jews shouldn't bitch about the holocaust because if it wasn't for Hitler and the Nazi's they wouldn't have a homeland today.

Native Americans should be ashamed to say anything bad about us Wasp's. We brought them civilization; hospitals, concrete, clothes, industries, telephones, railroads, etc. They have us to thank for it. So what if we have nearly annihilated their entire race and way of living. We did give them a place to live and a bunch of casinos so that they'll never get anywhere in life. We are so generous.

This guy is a genius.
Oh noes, where have I read similar arguments like this before...hmmmm...


Eagerly awaiting for Vinman to say kudos to the above too.

A quote from this hilarious little KKKer:

In his litany of famous immigrants who have contributed mightily to America, JFK does not mention a single woman, African or Asian. All are males and all were from Europe, except one West Indian: Alexander Hamilton. And JFK assures the nation, "Immigrants would still be given tests for health, intelligence, morality and security...

So he uses JFK not mentionning for example african americans to immigrants who has contributed to the improvement of america, as an argument for why they are obviously inferior beings, ofcourse completely disregarding that at the time JFK lived, it was hard for them to contribute when they were busy being terrorized and even lynched.

And oh, I guess its not contributing when you give centuries of free labour as slaves, that it just happend to be the very dominating and vital factor for the nation prospering as it did, and wouldn't have functioned otherwise.
 

Vinman

2013 Prediction Cup Champ
Jul 16, 2002
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Andy said:
Yes, it is our fault, because we initially put their families in those positions because they were slaves. That's the truth.
you're fucking crazy....

WE didnt do fuck-all to them....it was your ancestors, not mine, and it happened in the 1800's

Andy said:
But you're forgetting that we put the African americans downstream in the first place. Hence why we had to pay reparations worth trillions to African American programs to absolve ourselves from our prior sins, which some morons still commit today in the form of... wait for it... blatant racism.

Lets not be mistaken here. I don't support a university such as Michigan giving an African American two points more than me because of his race. But we HAVE to remember that this beloved white America put the blacks in the place they're in now... without a fucking doubt. What we have done is like injecting someone with aids and giving them copious amounts of medication for it.
they have equal to, if not MORE opportunities than white people.

Affirmative action, welfare, foodstamps, medicaid, etc....yes, I think reparations have been made...and then some

We will not have equality in this country until everyone is treated the same, regardless of color.....stopping affirmative action, and limiting welfare to the elderly and sick is a start in the right direction

Osman said:
Eagerly awaiting for Vinman to say kudos to the above too.
sorry...I'm not as narrow minded as yourself

I agreed with what Buchanan said in my original post, but that doesnt necessarily mean that I agree with everything he says on other subjects.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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you're fucking crazy....

WE didnt do fuck-all to them....it was your ancestors, not mine, and it happened in the 1800's
Alright, it was my ancestors that did it, because I'm white and you're not.

So if you aren't considered white "folk", what are you then, Vinni? Red, yellow, green, blue, purple, or grey?
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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they have equal to, if not MORE opportunities than white people.

Affirmative action, welfare, foodstamps, medicaid, etc....yes, I think reparations have been made...and then some

We will not have equality in this country until everyone is treated the same, regardless of color.....stopping affirmative action, and limiting welfare to the elderly and sick is a start in the right direction
I know more white people that use food stamps than black people.

But alright. Lets cut welfare to the sick and poor and just throw them into street, making them have to steal and commit crimes to survive. If we treat people like animals and beat them down, they'll do anything to survive, just like a bear out there in Alaska. They'll kill for survival, which is what many poor people do now. And you know, if they don't have anything else and the government doesn't help them, in some ways you can't blame them from stealing from our local store.

This has nothing to do with race by the way.
 

Vinman

2013 Prediction Cup Champ
Jul 16, 2002
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Alright, it was my ancestors that did it, because I'm white and you're not.

So if you aren't considered white "folk", what are you then, Vinni? Red, yellow, green, blue, purple, or grey?
nothing to do with color, but nationality. My ancestors werent here when slavery existed in this country

I know more white people that use food stamps than black people.

But alright. Lets cut welfare to the sick and poor and just throw them into street, making them have to steal and commit crimes to survive. If we treat people like animals and beat them down, they'll do anything to survive, just like a bear out there in Alaska. They'll kill for survival, which is what many poor people do now. And you know, if they don't have anything else and the government doesn't help them, in some ways you can't blame them from stealing from our local store.

This has nothing to do with race by the way.
missing the point again, Andrew. The sick and elderly should be given welfare...the able-bodied brothers on the street corner shouldnt be granted welfare

And you obviously dont know too many black people, because food stamps are the official currency of the ghetto...and the poor people you speak of arent committing crimes for survival...most are doing it for their next crack fix...believe me, I know !!!
 

Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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sorry...I'm not as narrow minded as yourself

I agreed with what Buchanan said in my original post, but that doesnt necessarily mean that I agree with everything he says on other subjects.
The funny thing is, its virtually little difference in what he said about african americans and Jews and Indians. The same racist sentiment, and the same neanderthal reasoning.

Its all the same racist vile, with different shades. You agreeing about his mongoloid views of blacks but not about Jews and Indians means little.
 
Aug 1, 2003
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this is a freaking disgrace. the only reason why blacks have 'better lives' now in america is because it was like crap before this, and lets face it white americans made it that way. i made a research on this, and i was honestly horrified by how blacks were being treated. now im not being anti-white american, im telling it as it is. and actually, lives for blacks now though it is better than last time, is still inferior to that of your average white american. this is the harsh truth. first of all, it shouldnt be "better" because it shouldnt even be "worse" prior to this. and "better" doesnt cut it, life should be just equally as good for everyone because black white chocolate everyone's an american citizen despite your ethnicity - isnt that what america parades?

what's pat smoking ?

It is important to note what life was like for blacks prior to the rise (and eventual fall) of the civil rights movement, and what they fought for. Most blacks were ineligible to vote, as the law required applicants to pass literacy tests or demonstrate an understanding of selected passages from state constitutions . A 1963 survey by the US Commission found that in 100 counties with the highest black population, only 8.3% were registered voters . Racial segregation was implemented and facilities for blacks were grossly inferior and have instilled a sense of inferiority in black children . Racial relations were such that lynching was a common practice and blacks were treated to severe punishment for minor racial etiquette and breach of social conventions. Furthermore, blacks were economically deprived; the median income of black men was half that of white men

Today, blacks constitute 11.3% of the nation’s voting-age population, make up 9.7% of the House of Representatives and more than 9000 hold elected office . A significant number of blacks have achieved relative success in employment; the 1990 US census shows that roughly 3/10 blacks are of the middle-class status . The proportion of black workers who held middle-class jobs increased from 12.1% in 1960 to 30.4% three decades later. During the same period the black share of aggregate family income grew from 5.4% to 7.2% . The civil rights movement led to the creation of “affirmative action”, whereby the ethnic minority groups were allocated certain quotas for positive discrimination for employment in companies.
However, these statistics also veiled the reality of the lives of the majority of African Americans. In the 1990s, over one half of all black children continued to live in poverty and the average black family earned only 56-60% of the income enjoyed by white Americans . 32% of the black population lived in poverty in 1990 compared to the 8.8% of the white population .


Despite popular American culture depicting and celebrating racial equality and tolerance, black inferiority still exists in American society. Though racism will never be admitted outright by the administration, President Reagan has referred to African Americans as ‘welfare kings’ . As recent as 2005, the delayed response for aid to Hurricane Katrina victims in a pre-dominantly black New Orleans has been attributed to the administration’s lack of concern for urban underclass blacks, and two years on these citizens have yet to receive the promised aid by the government. In reality, most whites never reconciled to school desegregation; and racial segregation often persists inside the school itself. Racial bigotry may not be out in the open, but it is definitely still in practice, as shown by the statistics and observations.
 

David01

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I 'd take a Bill' can't keep my dick in my pants' Clinton or a Barack a ' black' muslim' Obama any day over these redneck oil-sniffing Bush hillbillies
 
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