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Apr 30, 2006
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Hi to all !
Yesterday i went to Acqui Terme for Juventus raduno. Our President Cobolli Gigli talk about next season, he hope to play in serie B, maybe without penality. So i think there are no possibilities to play next year in serie A.
If someone of u speak italian i put video file of president talking about this on my site
www.stadiojuventus.it u have to click on "discorso presidente" It's a bit large file about 8mb.
Thank u to all.
Forza Juve!!!!
Victor.
 

Geof

Senior Member
May 14, 2004
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Moggi's win-at-all-costs method is the essence of a very Italian scandal

John Hooper in Rome
Saturday July 15, 2006
The Guardian

A lot of people would say Pierluigi Pairetto ought not even to have rung Juventus's general manager Luciano Moggi, let alone told him what he did. Two years ago, when their conversation was secretly recorded by the police, the portly silver-haired vet was a member of the Uefa referees' committee and one of the two "designators" who allocate referees to Serie A matches. Moggi was a man with a vast stake in who officiated where.

"I know you've been forgetting about me, but I've been remembering you," Pairetto began. "I've put in a great referee for the Amsterdam game [against Ajax]."

"Who?"

"[Urs] Meier."

"Terrific," Moggi said.

Reading that and other extracts from bugged telephone calls that were splashed across the newspapers at the beginning of May convinced many Italian fans that what they had long suspected was true. For years - decades, indeed - they had debated why, at critical moments, Juventus always seemed to get the benefit of the doubt on the field.

In one of the most famous incidents, which came in 1981 but is still talked about bitterly by Roma fans, their side lost the scudetto to the Turin club because of a hugely controversial offside decision.

For lack of proof a bizarre theory evolved, according to which the referees, even if they were not being paid or pressured, were somehow psychologically conditioned to favour the Bianconeri - the team of Fiat and the Agnellis, the nearest thing Italy has to a royal family. The transcripts, leaked from a separate investigation by prosecutors in Naples of a management agency owned by Moggi's son, indicated it was a lot simpler than that, at least in the 2004-5 season.

They suggested that, in league with other Juventus executives and key members of the Italian federation, Moggi senior was in effect remotely controlling Serie A, using a vast network of influence based on reciprocal favours.

Crucially, he is credited with being able to control the naming of referees and linesmen through his influence over the "designators". But that is not all. The transcripts suggest he could even influence the fans' subsequent perceptions of what had happened.

One quoted him urging a TV journalist to tamper with a slow-motion replay to hide a wrong decision in Juventus's favour.

It seems that, as other sides became aware of what the Italian media call the "Moggi method", some decided it would be impossible to beat it and so joined it instead in the hope of doing better than they would otherwise.

The Juventus influence began to feed off itself and spread way down the league table. In one conversation Moggi was called by Italy's former interior minister seeking favourable treatment for his local side, slogging away on the bare-earth pitches of Serie C1. A few weeks later the minister rang Moggi again with effusive thanks.

But when the Naples prosecutors sent the transcripts to the federation, nothing was done. Hence the accusation levelled against its former president Franco Carraro and other federation officials - that they knew about but did nothing to end the "Moggi method".

John Foot, author of Calcio: A History of Italian Football, thinks the scandal is in some respects quintessentially Italian: "Sucking up to the powerful is something that happens naturally in Italian society". But he also believes it is about the vast quantities of money now at stake in the Italian game. "The big clubs can't leave anything to chance now. They just have to win every year."
 

JuvenYang

Junior Member
Jul 26, 2002
84
The sentences might be unconstitutional and therefore risk cancellation.
One FIGC-appointed judge resigned yesterday in protesting Guido Rossi's process.

http://www.goal.com/it/articolo.aspx?contenutoId=94691

L'Opinione: Sentenze a rischio annullamento? Secondo Alberto Antinori le sentenze della Caf siano state fatte non in perfetta sintonia con la Costituzione Italiana e con lo Statuto della Figc. Cosa che, secondo lui, potrebbe portare il Tar ad annullarle.

Il processo penale è regolato dal principio del contraddittorio nella formazione della prova. La legge ne assicura la ragionevole durata. Così recita, tra l’altro, l’art.111 della nostra Costituzione.

Ciò che di questo processo salta agli occhi è soprattutto

a) la fretta (imposta da scadenze europee) che non ha consentito l’organizzazione della difesa;
b) la non ammissione di prove e testi a difesa;
c) le conclusioni dell’accusa formulate prima di aver ascoltato gli imputati.

Il diritto alla difesa viene palesemente violato non solo secondo l’art.111 della Costituzione, ma anche secondo l’art. 30, comma 2 dello Statuto della Figc che recita: “le norme relative all’ordinamento della Giustizia sportiva devono garantire il diritto di difesa”. Sempre secondo lo stesso Statuto, l’art.37 comma 5 e 6, le liste testimoniali della difesa possono essere ridotte ma non soppresse e il Procuratore Federale (comma 9)deve formulare le proprie richieste al termine del dibattimento.

Ma, direte voi, che difesa vuoi organizzare e che prove e testimoni vuoi produrre, tanto era tutto già scritto! Forse, un po’ di ragione ce l’avete. I nostri inquisitori non hanno fatto una bella figura quando la Gazzetta dello Sport ha pubblicato pari pari le sentenze ben prima che queste fossero di pubblico dominio, rispondendo così alla domanda di Ruperto che credeva di fare una battuta spiritosa: “Dite che le sentenze sono già scritte. Diteci anche dove, così le andiamo a leggere pure noi!”. Guido Rossi aveva garantito trasparenza assoluta, ma Ruperto (checché ne dica l’interessato e nonostante i 110 libri da lui curati) non è neanche riuscito a garantire la riservatezza almeno fino alla sentenza. E così viene anche sconfessato il presidente della Juventus che, in tv, aveva imputato il ritardo nella lettura della sentenza all’intervento di qualcuno sulla commissione giudicante.

Ora, visti i punti a), b) e c), non si vede come il Tar possa confermare quanto disposto dalla Giustizia sportiva. Di conseguenza, non solo queste sentenze saranno annullate, ma ci sarà da fronteggiare le inevitabili azioni di megarisarcimento danni a carico della Figc. Per questo è auspicabile che il Processo d’Appello della Giustizia sportiva prenda in considerazione quanto non ammesso dal primo grado, riducendo drasticamente i danni per le società coinvolte cosicché, chissà, si potrebbe anche arrivare ad un compromesso.

Nel frattempo l’Avv. Giuseppe Benedetto, Giudice Federale per il settore giovanile preannuncia a Guido Rossi di voler lasciare il suo incarico: "Il metodo usato nel e col processo mi induce a urlare: il diritto è un’altra cosa! Trovatevi un altro giudice".

Alberto Antinori​
 

Jem83

maitre'd at Canal Bar
Nov 7, 2005
22,870
CASH BOOST REQUIRED TO SAVE JUVE
By Rory Squires, PA Sport

Juventus are heading for "financial meltdown" unless they receive a huge cash injection from private investors over the next two or three years, according to a football finance expert.

The Turin club were last week ordered by a sports court in Rome to play in Serie B next season, after being exposed as having a central involvement in arguably the biggest corruption case in Italian football history.

It is questionable whether Juventus - who have also been stripped of their league titles in 2005 and this year - will escape another relegation at the end of next season, as they will kick-off the new campaign with a 30-point deduction.

Fiorentina and Lazio have also been relegated to Serie B and will start next season with 12 and seven-point deficits respectively.

AC Milan will start the 2006-07 campaign in Serie A with a 15-point deficit and have had 44 points deducted from their total last season - meaning they will not compete in the lucrative Champions League.

Of the four clubs, Juventus have certainly been hit the hardest, and relegation will take a severe toll on the club's finances.

"Around 80% of Juventus' revenue is from sponsorship and television rights deals, and I would expect the vast majority of that to disappear," Stuart Whitwell, a joint managing director of brand consultancy Intangible Business, told PA Sport's Football Insider.

"There is a triple-hit really. Juventus can expect a loss of at least 50% of its income overnight. Under the circumstances sponsors could drop out, and I expect many to do so.

"There will also be a major loss of players, and thirdly the image of the club is tarnished.

"Unless there is private investment from the Agnelli family (who own the club) or another source, Juventus will go out of business.

"They could suffer financial meltdown.

"I think Juventus will need private investments of around 125million euros (£86million) a year for perhaps the next two or three years to keep going.

"Juventus' ticket revenue is incredibly small for a club of its size and many sponsors will not want to be associated with the club. With the loss of income, Juventus will not be able to command a premium.

"I do think the Juve image will recover over time, because of the history of the club. Juve does have a bit of magic about it, and I expect that to help carry it through, but it will take years."
http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/06/07/17/SOCCER_Juventus_Finance.html&TEAMHD=soccer
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I found this article depressing as hell, because there's probably great truth in it. Therefore, it is important that we now sell people like Cannavaro, Zambrotta, Buffon, Thuram, Camoranesi, Zlatan (has he gone yet?) immediately, and command the highest price possible. It is vital for the club now that we bring some cash in.
 
May 18, 2006
7
Inter eye Ibra and Vieira
channel 4

Inter owner Massimo Moratti will hold talks with Juventus this week in a bid to sign Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Patrick Vieira.

The two players are on the verge of leaving the Italian giants following the Calciopoli verdicts and the Nerazzurri are desperate for the pair.

Reports in Italy on Tuesday suggest that Moratti has scheduled a meeting with Juve chief Giovanni Cobolli Gigli where he will attempt to open negotiations.

The midfielder is seen as a potentially crucial capture after the loss of Juan Sebastian Veron who has returned to his homeland.

Inter are ready to offer the former Arsenal man, who has also been linked with Real Madrid and Manchester United, a four-year contract worth around £3m a campaign.

However, there seems to be a significant difference between Juventus’ asking price and Inter’s offer for the combative midfielder.

With regard to Ibrahimovic, it seems as if the club and the player have already agreed personal terms.

Agent Mino Raiola is understood to have negotiated a £2.8m a year deal until 2011 for the Swedish sensation.

Nevertheless, the two clubs still have to agree a fee and there is, unsurprisingly, a difference of opinion in terms of valuation.

Inter are willing to offer almost £11m while Juventus believe the former Ajax sensation is worth closer to £18m.

The Nerazzurri have recently confirmed that Ibrahimovic, teammate David Trezeguet and Fiorentina’s Luca Toni are on their list of transfer targets.
 

ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
22,871
Juventus spell out appeal case against relegation


ROME, July 19 (Reuters) - The lawyer defending Juventus in Italy's Serie A match-fixing scandal said on Wednesday the club's appeal against relegation would be based on their belief the punishment was not justified.

In a document published on La Gazzetta dello Sport's website, replying to questions from a Juventus fan, Cesare Zaccone outlined how the club intended to appeal against the guilty verdict handed down by a sports tribunal last week.

Juventus were sent down to the second-tier Serie B with a 30-point penalty and the loss of the Serie A titles it won in the 2004/05 and 2005/06 seasons.

Zaccone said Juventus could not be held directly responsible for the actions of its former general manager Luciano Moggi and argued that the punishments were "not compatible with only one case of sporting fraud -- and which we are contesting."

Zaccone also criticized the tribunal's decision to strip Juventus of the Serie A title they won the following season -- a period in which there was no evidence of wrongdoing.

"Why the sanction -- which has no justification at all or reason -- of being stripped of the 2005/06 Serie A title, in relation to which there does not exist any proof of irregularity?" said Zaccone, pointing out that all the phone taps dated from 2004/05.

"And why add to the already very heavy sanction of being stripped of the 2004/05 title by relegating the club to Serie B with a points penalty which is equivalent, in substance, to relegation to Serie C (Italy's third division)?"

The appeals process is scheduled to start on Saturday at Rome's luxurious Hotel Parco dei Principi.

The appeals court is expected to move faster than the first tribunal, which took 15 days to reach its verdicts, but it will be hard-pushed to complete its work by July 25. That deadline has been set by UEFA for the Italian Football Federation (FIGC) to submit their list of teams for next season's Champions League and UEFA Cup competitions.

Should the appeals process remains unfinished on July 25, the FIGC commissioner Guido Rossi has said Italy's list to UEFA would reflect the verdicts of the first sports tribunal.

In that case, Juventus, Milan and Fiorentina would lose their places in the Champions League and make way for AS Roma, Chievo Verona and Palermo.

Reuters
 

Juve100%

Senior Member
Feb 13, 2004
632
Calciopoli: simuliamo il processo d'appello
21 07 2006
Grazia Neri

Lo speciale Calciopoli

Ecco la situazione del processo di Calciopoli: sentenza di primo grado, difesa, ricorso accusa e probabile sentenza.

JUVENTUS:
Condanna: retrocessione in Serie B con 30 punti di penalizzazione, non assegnazione dello scudetto 2006 e revoca del titolo 2005.

Difesa: La Juventus sottolinea come nella sentenza non si parli di sistema o cupola. Inoltre si fa notare come la precedente dirigenza, che ha compiuto qualche errore, non esista più e che il club bianconero abbia voltato pagina accettando la retrocessione. L'obiettivo è la riduzione parziale o meglio consistente dei 30 punti penalità. Un'altra richiesta è quella della 'riconsegna' dello scudetto 2005-06 non gravato da illeciti sportivi.
Ricorso accusa: la Juventus va retrocessa in una Serie inferiore alla B con penalizzazione di 6 punti in quanto epicentro di una attività di illeciti reiterati.

Sentenza probabile: conferma della retrocessione in B, annullamento dei due scudetti e penalizzazione in Serie B di -20 punti.

FIORENTINA:
Condanna: retrocessione in Serie B con 12 punti di penalizzazione

Difesa: La Fiorentina si dichiara non colpevole perché estranea ai fatti e passaggio di responsabilità da diretta a oggettiva. Non si cerca riduzione di pena, ma l'assoluzione piena e l'annullamento di ogni penalità con la riammissione alla Champions League.
Ricorso accusa: nessuno

Sentenza probabile: riammissione in Serie A con penalizzazione nella prossima stagione e forte penalizzazione nella stagione precedente in modo da impedire la partevipazione alla Champions League.

LAZIO:
Condanna: retrocessione in Serie B con 7 punti di penalizzazione.

Difesa: la Lazio si dichiara non colpevole perché estranea ai fatti e passaggio di responsabilità da diretta a oggettiva. Non si cerca riduzione di pena, ma l'assoluzione piena e l'annullamento di ogni penalità con la riammissione alla Coppa Uefa. Importante il fatto che l'arbitro Tombolini abbia testimoniato a favore della Lazio.
Ricorso accusa: nessuno

Sentenza probabile: riammissione in Serie A con penalizzazione

MILAN:
Condanna: penalizzazione di 15 punti nella prossima Serie A, 44 punti di penalizzazione nello scorso campionato con conseguente esclusione dalla Champions League.

Difesa: Il Milan sostiene che non è stato commesso illecito, che l'addetto agli arbitri Leonardo Meani, autore delle telefonate compromettenti, aveva un ruolo periferico e precario con la società e agiva per conto proprio. Adriano Galliani non era a conoscenza delle attività di Meani.
Ricorso accusa: il Milan va retrocesso in Serie B con penalizzazione di 3 punti in quanto responsabilità oggettiva in illecito sportivo in Milan-Chievo e il dirigente Galliani "non poteva non essere al corrente".

Sentenza probabile: aumento di cinque punti della penalizzazione nella scorsa stagione in modo da evitare al Milan la partecipazione in Coppa Uefa; diminuzione da 15 a 10 punti di penalizzazione nella classifica della prossima stagione.

Calendario dell'appello
Venerdì 21: la Corte Federale aprirà il processo di secondo grado all'hotel Parco dei Principi ma la prima giornata verrà considerata solo tecnica, per l'acquisizione e la preparazione degli atti e del dibattimento.

Sabato 22 : si aprirà ufficialmente il processo davanti alla Corte Federale presieduta da Piero Sandulli. Contemporaneamente l'Ufficio Indagini potrebbe iniziare la preparazione della relazione di chiusura della seconda inchiesta da consegnare al Procuratore Federale Stefano Palazzi.

Martedì 25: la Federazione dovrà consegnare all'Uefa i nomi dei club da iscrivere alle coppe europee per la prossima stagione. Se la Corte Federale non avrà già emesso i suoi verdetti varrà la classifica stilata dalla Caf.
 

Juve100%

Senior Member
Feb 13, 2004
632
Its saying that the likely outcome of the appeal would be Lazio and Fiorentina back to serie A with points deduction, Milan to start with -10 points.

And Juve Serie B -20 points!!!

Again we get the s**t end of the deal!!!!
 

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