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Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
81,198
Social media misinformation campaign riled up the far right extremist diots (English Defence League) that the psychotic child murderer was Muslim that came from nearby local mosque, alluding to it like it was coordinated terrorism or such. Police and authorities told them that's false.


But they went on rampage and clashed with police to attack the local mosque close to where that clip is taken from. Injured several cops, partly damaged the mosque and police vehicles etc.


This day and age of post Covid rampant disinformation having much easier spread, means crazy shit like this will keep happening, different types of extremists will see heinous tragedies as opportunity to push their agendas. More and more growing into be fact resistant society on global scale:


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...tack-suspect-social-media-conspiracy-theories

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I never been to England when it's really warm weather.


So that partly explains why English people have such horrid reputation in tropical vacation spots.

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I don't even think that clown is Romanian. Think is Azerbaijan or Armenian.


Whichever doesn't matter, his lack of brain cells is his issue, not his nations.
Russian (and other times) Chinese bot/troll farms really doing a number on social media these days. All in their (successful) attempts at bringing down western institutions
 

Wings

Banter era connoiseur
Contributor
Jul 15, 2002
21,661
Fixed.

Can we frame this in the Tuz hall of fame, like ASAP?
Isn't he from Kazakhstan?

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muslim is not a race or ethnicity.

also you just against africans? does it matter if they from egypt @Bianconero81 or from Sudan? you need to explain
Shhhh don't tell him. He thinks Africa is a country.
 

Elvin

Senior Member
Nov 25, 2005
36,923
Trolling or fighting.
muslim is not a race or ethnicity.

also you just against africans? does it matter if they from egypt @Bianconero81 or from Sudan? you need to explain
Doesnt matter. Their mentality is against Western values. They will never adapt.

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People still would come in western countries on a boat in an hour
Kill them.
 
Jun 16, 2020
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It's allways funny to me how the perspectives can be so different. In school at young age, end of class years of the subject, we used to watch movies or reports showing the late 1800s to early 1900s big wave of European immigration to America, the poorest of the poor.

Starving Germans, Scandinavians, Irish, Italians refugees so and so on. And each of them especially when group together in same working class neighbourhoods (italians and irish), facing massive amount of discrimination and xenophobia from Americans. Or even immigrants that assimilated just a decade before them.

Same exact nationalities who gave the same type of harsh treatment to immigrants or just any minority groups in their old countries. Circle of life kinda moment watching that as a young child.


Everyone needs an Other to blame. Doesn't matter who.
It’s only half of the story you’re telling now though

It’s not ‘poor Italians went there and were subjected to racism’

There was also the huge increase in criminality, I don’t have to tell anyone here about the maffia we all know it.

So if a group of migrants from whatever country go somewhere, and they are massively overrepresented in crime rates, honestly I get why the native population gets angry. I mean why wouldn’t you?

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Btw to answer my own post, I often thought about this in the past.

So how come group x is overrepresented in crime while group y isn’t while they have more or less equal opportunities

The only thing I come up with is that there’s a problem at a cultural/social levels within those groups. So Italians in the past in the US, or still now in the south, were likelier to go on the criminal path because they live in groups where crime gets romanticised and where their surroundings are willing to turn a blind eye or to trivialise their behaviour. This are more or less the patterns I recognised from own experience

I have a cousin who had to do quite some time, lived in that world since he was young, but according to his mother it was still the polices fault.

And this is also why I think that nationalism to a certain point is good (it shouldn’t become fascism). But the idea that you might trash your own country/community by a certain behaviour, might already be enough to stop people from doing is. We’re living in a world now though where nationalism is seen as something bad, because it might provoke racism. Maybe not relevant for the discussion but it came to my mind while writing this point

Curious to see what someone else thinks why certain groups are overrepresented in crime
 
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Siamak

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Aug 13, 2013
18,560
At primary school when it came to history I only remember learning about the Vikings, Romans and Normans, at least what stuck with me, so maybe we're subconsciously thinking about invaders lol.
Scythians?
Do Russians, Belarusians and Ukrainians consider themselves descendants of Scythians?
 

AFL_ITALIA

MAGISTERIAL
Jun 17, 2011
31,831
It’s only half of the story you’re telling now though

It’s not ‘poor Italians went there and were subjected to racism’

There was also the huge increase in criminality, I don’t have to tell anyone here about the maffia we all know it.

So if a group of migrants from whatever country go somewhere, and they are massively overrepresented in crime rates, honestly I get why the native population gets angry. I mean why wouldn’t you?

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Btw to answer my own post, I often thought about this in the past.

So how come group x is overrepresented in crime while group y isn’t while they have more or less equal opportunities

The only thing I come up with is that there’s a problem at a cultural/social levels within those groups. So Italians in the past in the US, or still now in the south, were likelier to go on the criminal path because they live in groups where crime gets romanticised and where their surroundings are willing to turn a blind eye or to trivialise their behaviour. This are more or less the patterns I recognised from own experience

I have a cousin who had to do quite some time, lived in that world since he was young, but according to his mother it was still the polices fault.

And this is also why I think that nationalism to a certain point is good (it shouldn’t become fascism). But the idea that you might trash your own country/community by a certain behaviour, might already be enough to stop people from doing is. We’re living in a world now though where nationalism is seen as something bad, because it might provoke racism. Maybe not relevant for the discussion but it came to my mind while writing this point

Curious to see what someone else thinks why certain groups are overrepresented in crime
No.

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JuveJay

Senior Signor
Moderator
Mar 6, 2007
75,030
It’s still so wild to me that English and Sicilians would share some shared genetics due to the Normans.
Not only that but there would be Norse DNA throughout the north of England (mostly Scotland) from the original invasions who would be ancestors of Normans, so a double influx of this DNA when the Norman's arrived, possibly even some related.
 

Bisco

Senior Member
Nov 21, 2005
14,420
Im not a xenophobe. Im only against muslims and africans. West needs to close their border to all non democtatic countries in general.
And russkies you hate those more no elvin? I always thought you lived in the uae if my memory serves me right. I'm surprised you came out of there with so much seething hate. Try getting some councelling it will help, life is too short bro to bottle all this hate


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