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JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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Right so the primary cause of the mayhem was the local idiots, not Romanians right?
Well I say local but it's a very diverse area so who really knows. But the trigger seems to be the family incident which meant police were called and then the morons turned up.

Being Romanian was nothing to do with the disorder, I just said it was a Romanian family.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy68z9dw9e7o

Public execution is too good for this piece of shit.
We've had something similar in Belgium 15 years ago. A young man entered a daycare and killed two babies and a childcare worker. He was tried and convicted, but during the trial in 2013 there was mention of him having schizophrenia. It was not really accepted at the time of the trial, but by 2019 it became obvious that he was in fact schizophrenic. He's been at a mental institution since 2022, but nothing has really changed.

I'm just saying this because I think it's unlikely that such a crime is committed by a sane person and schizophrenia usually manifests itself in the late teens and early twenties.
 

JuveJay

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We've had something similar in Belgium 15 years ago. A young man entered a daycare and killed two babies and a childcare worker. He was tried and convicted, but during the trial in 2013 there was mention of him having schizophrenia. It was not really accepted at the time of the trial, but by 2019 it became obvious that he was in fact schizophrenic. He's been at a mental institution since 2022, but nothing has really changed.

I'm just saying this because I think it's unlikely that such a crime is committed by a sane person and schizophrenia usually manifests itself in the late teens and early twenties.
I'm almost certain there will be mental health issues at play here, quite how far that rationalises it I'm not sure. I also think our criminal justice system is extremely lenient and won't arrive at a satisfactory outcome in many people's eyes.

A third child has died. Brings back memories of Dunblane.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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I'm almost certain there will be mental health issues at play here, quite how far that rationalises it I'm not sure. I also think our crime justice system is extremely lenient and won't arrive at a satisfactory outcome in many people's eyes.

A third child has died. Brings back memories of Dunblane.

For what it's worth a diagnosis of schizophrenia doesn't really help the perpetrator in Belgium. On the contrary it means they can hold you indefinitely until you are 'healed'. But you never really recover from schizophrenia, so you're just in a different type of prison all your life. Without the diagnosis, there is a maximum penalty which kind of comes down to 30 years, but you go out sooner on good behaviour.
 

Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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What are these guys mad at?

Social media misinformation campaign riled up the far right extremist diots (English Defence League) that the psychotic child murderer was Muslim that came from nearby local mosque, alluding to it like it was coordinated terrorism or such. Police and authorities told them that's false.


But they went on rampage and clashed with police to attack the local mosque close to where that clip is taken from. Injured several cops, partly damaged the mosque and police vehicles etc.


This day and age of post Covid rampant disinformation having much easier spread, means crazy shit like this will keep happening, different types of extremists will see heinous tragedies as opportunity to push their agendas. More and more growing into be fact resistant society on global scale:


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...tack-suspect-social-media-conspiracy-theories

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It's not just this incident, these things have built over years but you'll find that whenever we get warm weather in this country you end up with more trouble, and it's the same crowd.

I never been to England when it's really warm weather.


So that partly explains why English people have such horrid reputation in tropical vacation spots.

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The funny thing is xenophobes in the UK also consider Romanians a pest.

I don't even think that clown is Romanian. Think is Azerbaijan or Armenian.


Whichever doesn't matter, his lack of brain cells is his issue, not his nations.
 
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