There ain't no important whiteys, just the MP for my constituency who's a retard.
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Anyone got Question Time on?
The Government refused to put a representative on because Alastair Campbell was going to be on the show.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8709930.stm
The Government refused to put a representative on because Alastair Campbell was going to be on the show.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8709930.stm
I have a question for all the British members here. Why is it so wrong that the BNP want to preserve "British peoples identity"? and why is it deemed racist?
I mean i understand why Europeans become such pussies when it comes to nationalism and all that for obvious historical reasons. But i think that some of the BNP's concerns are understandable.
When they consider themselves to be "better" than other ethnic groups, thats when it can be considered racism, but when they want to stop immigration from non "British" people, i don't see why thats wrong. I also don't see why its wrong if they want Britain to be more "British". After all it is the British peoples country, and its their ancestors that have lived there for centuries, so they do have more of a right to it than anybody else. Of course, for minority ethnic groups that have been in Britain for generations, these guys have just as much of a right to Britain as the "British" people. But if the government decides to stop giving citizenship to people from other nationalities, i personally see that as completely legitimate and completely understandable.
I mean i understand why Europeans become such pussies when it comes to nationalism and all that for obvious historical reasons. But i think that some of the BNP's concerns are understandable.
When they consider themselves to be "better" than other ethnic groups, thats when it can be considered racism, but when they want to stop immigration from non "British" people, i don't see why thats wrong. I also don't see why its wrong if they want Britain to be more "British". After all it is the British peoples country, and its their ancestors that have lived there for centuries, so they do have more of a right to it than anybody else. Of course, for minority ethnic groups that have been in Britain for generations, these guys have just as much of a right to Britain as the "British" people. But if the government decides to stop giving citizenship to people from other nationalities, i personally see that as completely legitimate and completely understandable.
Maybe that's because a lot of people realize, even just intuitively, that any state or nation that exist in the world today is a product of immigration and intermarriage through the ages, there is no such thing as a "pure" state. Everything is "mixed" already, if not because the "British" (as if that's a nationality even) people were the first to arrive in Britain, but because they too were preceded by smaller groups (tribes even) that mixed with other groups etc etc. The whole idea of "preserving our heritage" is little more than xenophobia.
I am not advocating a Hitler-like Aryan race kind of thing. Of course there was mix and intermarriage throughout history. Then they developed a common culture, history, traditions etc. If they want to preserve all that, i don't see anything wrong with that.
Plus, they're right a lot of people go to Britain and get the British citizenship only for the benefits that come with the British passport. I personally know loads of people like that.
No, they didn't develop a "common" culture, there was no shortage of immigration throughout the whole period, into and out of "Britain", in the last 1000 years. These things are in a constant state of flux and it's only xenophobes who make it out to be something that "it was like this the whole time and now all of a sudden they want to change it". No, it was constantly in a state of change. These stories are just bad history.
Culture is not a static historical stance but a fluid ever-evolving group stance.
For example the Arab world uses culture as an excuse to subjogate Women, saying that their historical shared experience says it's a correct state of affairs, well bull poopy!
If your culture is wrong, change it, that's why we don't beat women or drink and drive anymore, because what is very old is often pointless, aka the Chiementi rule.
For example the Arab world uses culture as an excuse to subjogate Women, saying that their historical shared experience says it's a correct state of affairs, well bull poopy!
If your culture is wrong, change it, that's why we don't beat women or drink and drive anymore, because what is very old is often pointless, aka the Chiementi rule.
see their whole argument of what is "british" is null and void anyway,the "british" people are massively influenced by the many different people we subjugated,the many cultures we subverted and the influences the British empire brought back to our shores. these bigots fail to realise that what made britain such a powerful force was its ability to absorb elements of the foreign culture it tried to suppress in the natives it conquered.
add to this that britain in itself has taken elements of all its early foreign invaders (vikings,saxons,romans,etc) and integrated it into our language and culture. being Britsh actually means nothing,we are a mixed bag of tribes that have accepted each others presence simply because our island isnt big enough to keep fighting with each other and we got sick of out wives being raped by foreign invaders
add to this that britain in itself has taken elements of all its early foreign invaders (vikings,saxons,romans,etc) and integrated it into our language and culture. being Britsh actually means nothing,we are a mixed bag of tribes that have accepted each others presence simply because our island isnt big enough to keep fighting with each other and we got sick of out wives being raped by foreign invaders
Saudi Arabia is the most improvent Arab state according to the UN.
