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    (the rest of you, ignore the account that this came from lol)

    Yeah I followed it live. It was less shocking than the previous hearing, but we reach the point where credible people talking about this in the open gets normal.

    The biggest take is the sharing of a secret program called ‘immaculate constellation’, the documents are all over X now.

    I think that everyone who follows this subject did not expect disclosure, it’s a process rather than a isolated incident or hearing.

    Also, rationalising everything a bit; it’s either true or it’s not true. There’s no grey area. We can discuss a hundred different topics, where both sides say some things that are a bit true, and a bit not true, putting the reality in a grey area between both arguments. This isn’t the case here. Either there are NHI (non-human intelligence) interacting with the world, or it’s not and we have senior professionals mass hallucinating + China has a technological advantage by a huge factor over the US (and Europe). Looking to all the safety issues with the marine and aviators (near collisions), the odds that it’s some secret US program are very slim if you ask me.

    Next month there should be a senate hearing, not sure if it’s public. The ball keeps rolling.
     

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    The British situation over the last 7 days is genuinely crazy. UAP (not necessarily meaning UFO’s now) seen over sensitive American bases for days in a row, with forces basically being unable to mitigate the threat or have a comprehensive answer about what they are.

    UFO world is going crazy. Some good arguments of why people don’t expect it to be drones: why would adversaries fly with lights, there are tons of measures against drones (spoofing, jamming, downing them, capturing them with nets, etc), some channels that were live broadcasting the situation got taken offline.

    So leaving conclusions in the middle, either we have genuine UFO’s or our forces which are funded with billions aren’t able to protect potentially bases with nucleair weapons against drones.

    Also the USA has send help to the UK to control the situation. Have to add that there’s a long history (way before drones) of UAP seen at those sensitive facilities. Whether you believe if it are UFO’s or not, the incidents are interesting enough to follow for everyone. Both scenario’s are quite scary

     

    JuveJay

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    The British situation over the last 7 days is genuinely crazy. UAP (not necessarily meaning UFO’s now) seen over sensitive American bases for days in a row, with forces basically being unable to mitigate the threat or have a comprehensive answer about what they are.

    UFO world is going crazy. Some good arguments of why people don’t expect it to be drones: why would adversaries fly with lights, there are tons of measures against drones (spoofing, jamming, downing them, capturing them with nets, etc), some channels that were live broadcasting the situation got taken offline.

    So leaving conclusions in the middle, either we have genuine UFO’s or our forces which are funded with billions aren’t able to protect potentially bases with nucleair weapons against drones.

    Also the USA has send help to the UK to control the situation. Have to add that there’s a long history (way before drones) of UAP seen at those sensitive facilities. Whether you believe if it are UFO’s or not, the incidents are interesting enough to follow for everyone. Both scenario’s are quite scary

    These are just being reported as drones here and that the relevant authorities are trying to find our who is controlling them.

    Little hobbyist drones are very hard to detect and source, it's not like they are military UAVs.
     
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    These are just being reported as drones here and that the relevant authorities are trying to find our who is controlling them.

    Little hobbyist drones are very hard to detect and source, it's not like they are military UAVs.
    It’s the opposite, hobby drones just use a radio- (hertz) and GPS signal. You can remove the radiosignal by making them fly autonomously and with pre-programmed AI recognition of buildings for example, but that would already imply a level of sophistication that average users won’t use. They are detectable without to much problems.

    Getting bullied one night by an amateur seems realistic, multiple nights in a row over several bases indicates for me that there’s a level of professionalism.

    We have all the counter measures for drones, there are at any random time 10k drones in the air in Ukraine. A random DJI or FPV drone isn’t that sophisticated, at least not if we compare it with the equipment the Department of Defense has.
     
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    JuveJay

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    It’s the opposite, hobby drones just use a radio- (hertz) and GPS signal. You can remove the radiosignal by making them fly autonomously and with pre-programmed AI recognition of buildings for example, but that would already imply a level of sophistication that average users won’t use. They are detectable without to much problems.

    Getting bullied one night by an amateur seems realistic, multiple nights in a row over several bases indicates for me that there’s a level of professionalism.

    We have all the counter measures for drones, there are at any random time 10k drones in the air in Ukraine. A random DJI or FPV drone isn’t that sophisticated, at least not if we compare it with the equipment the Department of Defense has.
    An updating article: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crk4g3zddexo

    My point is that I understand that this falls under the UAP or UFO remit by definition, after that my only opinion is tricksters, or maybe nefarious agents (Russia/China).

    You made quite an incredible leap to say because they haven't been stopped so far by world powers the natural conclusion is genuine UFOs.
     
    OP
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    An updating article: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crk4g3zddexo

    My point is that I understand that this falls under the UAP or UFO remit by definition, after that my only opinion is tricksters, or maybe nefarious agents (Russia/China).

    You made quite an incredible leap to say because they haven't been stopped so far by world powers the natural conclusion is genuine UFOs.
    Lol I did not say that.
     
    OP
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    I must've read this wrong: "So leaving conclusions in the middle, either we have genuine UFO’s or our forces which are funded with billions aren’t able to protect potentially bases with nucleair weapons against drones."
    And as it says: no conclusions. Of course the odds are way higher that it are drones, but it’s either one of those options, or there’s a third option where I’m not familiar with. You make it sound like I jumped on the band wagon for genuine UFO’s, which simply isn’t true.

    I read again and honestly this is quite false. Nowhere did I say that if they aren’t able to stop them, it must be UFO’s. It’s a fair conclusion to say that departments funded with billions aren’t able to protect their bases if incidents like these happen for 5 to potentially 6 days in a row. Don’t put words in my mouth please.
     
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    JuveJay

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    And as it says: no conclusions. Of course the odds are way higher that it are drones, but it’s either one of those options, or there’s a third option where I’m not familiar with. You make it sound like I jumped on the band wagon for genuine UFO’s, which simply isn’t true.

    I read again and honestly this is quite false. Nowhere did I say that if they aren’t able to stop them, it must be UFO’s. It’s a fair conclusion to say that departments funded with billions aren’t able to protect their bases if incidents like these happen for 5 to potentially 6 days in a row. Don’t put words in my mouth please.
    Ok so essentially you're not saying anything. Either it's aliens or inept governments, or it is a vast range of other explanations in the middle.
     

    Lion

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    forces which are funded with billions aren’t able to protect potentially bases with nucleair weapons against drones.
    topic of are bases and military targets safe enough from enemey attacks is it's own topic.

    i will say that a drone attack or rocket attack on a nuclear weapon will not set off the nuclear weapon. it's impossible. you can google it if you don't believe me.
     
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    Ok so essentially you're not saying anything. Either it's aliens or inept governments, or it is a vast range of other explanations in the middle.
    Indeed I just brought the news and filtered some arguments I saw online, without making any personal conclusions. You, again, totally changed my words to: “It may be drones, but if forces can’t capture them it must surely be aliens”. In fact if it are drones, and forces can’t stop relatively easy technology, we have a huge security problem. The other option may be genuine UAP, which in a landscape of whistleblowers isn’t a unfair thought, imo it’s more rational to keep options open.
     

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