++ [ originally posted by Dian ] ++
it's nice to see all the good answers to my topic
I m sorry about, what some of my fellow Juventini did to ur thread Dian,
i always welcome another point of view,i m glad u joined our forum
and u sould know there is atleast one European country that doesnt keep its ears closed and shares ur pain on this delicate matter,
by the time the Turks came in from the Mongolian steppes, they were never quited their habbit to terorrise and slaughter their neighbouring countries, NEVER, not even today,
this thing was permited because the Turks had always strong allies, because strenght is the only they ever wished and feared
and since they were somebody else's problem the great alliation only cared how to make profit of the situation,
but now,time has come to face this problem, atlast!
The turks,althought they didnt adapted them self to the 21st century,
they realised the war isnt that profitable anymore
and they made some huge steps forward,
v. slowly, but they did,
they have now,some strong inclination to west civilasation,
the temptetion to become an equal member of the EU made them become more... human, there are voices, and interests within the country now that are working for their complete transformation,if Europe permantly decline their try to become smth better, the Turks will show then, their real face again.
So its for our interest to force Turkey become more human luring them to E.U. because this is the only way to ever find a solution to ur problems,
we sould force them to respect the international laws,
(let them sign national treaties wich would automaticaly resolve the many "national" problems they have),
let them visit Europe and see what peace and prosperity may offer,
further secure the national security in the region and set Economical critirial so high they sould renounce on their army,(their army is the only thing they have now,partially U.S. politics fault)
if they ever let their weapons down, they might become true citizens of the world.
They sould become Europeans first by state and then by name.
When? i m afraid they need 2-3 generations time atleast.