When was that? I missed the first 15 mins or so of the Inter match so it's possible I didn't see it.
I was joking.
I was joking.
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I never said that, bro. But you called me a douche so I want to know why. You are one of my favorite posters at this place, as you know a hell a lot about football. I think you're a cool cat, as I have since 2004. I'm just trying to show you some damn good old school rap that is some of the best ever.
Ok here is my TIM Cup review:
First of all lets start with the Inter game:
Formation: Buffon, Zebina, Andrade, Crischito, Chiellini, Salihamdizc, Almiron, Zanetti, Nedved, Del Piero, Iaquinta.
Defence: We were pretty good. I am really happy with the way we played. It looks like they are welding up together well. Andrade and Criscito were amazing together. On the sides, I was really impressed with Zebina. He played a very good game, one of his best in a long time. I hope his form continues. Chiellini gave his usual solid performance.
Midfield: The key to our formation is here.. And it is Zanetti. He is the player capable of putting the whole team together. With him as a DM our defence he filters ALOT and I mean ALOT of things off our defence line. His passing skills are very good and rarely takes chances or make mistakes. Made one slip but both Andrade and Criscito were there to cover. He really did stop almost all counter attacks or slow them down till the team returned back. For me he is the Man of the Tournament last night. Nedved did not look in form looked tired and lacked concentration. Almiron and salihamidizc were good. In general the mid field was creative and solild.
Offence: iaquinta continue on putting the big question mark on his performance. My only thoughts about thim are that either he still needs time to adapt to the teams formation and then he will explode. OR he will be another flop. So he's either going to be very good or extremely bad. He moved around the field, had some chances which one expect him to take better. His one touch plays looked interesting but needs more adaptation and understanding with the whole squad. Del Piero played well. as always his passes and ball possesion are amazing, let alone his skills. His fighting spirit looked good too. Not so worried about getting injured although got some nasty tackles. Was very creative. I still want him to concentrate more with the freekicks. All his corners were absilutely dangerous.
Against Milan:
Formation: Buffon, Grygera, Andrade, Criscito, Molinaro, Nocerino, Zanetti (Olivera), Nedved (Iaquinta), Almiron, Trezeguet, palladino
Defence: Andrade and Criscito gave the same performance as the inter game. Grygera looked lost. Did not participate alot in defending the centrally unlike Zebina in the first game. But he's excused new to the team and just recevored from an injury. Molinaro played alright. But it seems that currently our best choices are chiellini and Zebina.
Midfield: Was alright.. Solid but not as creative as the first game. The fact that Del Piero wasn't there really showed up in creativity. One Zanettli got off the field you can really notice that the one filtering the attacks of the other team is gone. All counter attacks reach to the defence or even the goalkeeper. Nedved was not very present with his creativity yet he gave solidity to our midfield. Nocerino was alright still needs more experience but has all the pontentials to be a great player. Olivera...... well..... Didn't do much.
Offence: Palladino lacks experience when put against the likes of Inter and Milan. Still needs to develop but hopefully will get there. Trezeguet tried but wasn't receiving alot fo feeds from the midfield. Iaquinta didn't do much.
C. Ranieri: His words are turning in reality slowly for that I show my respect. But it will come down to what he choses to be his first lineup. The team is welding up together well. We might not be as sparkling as AC Milan but we are sure up there with the big guns. It also appears that CR wanted another CB but the club budget was not enough to buy him a decent one, I respect the choice of sticking with what he has rather than buying a player who would be an aweful waste of money.
I think our best formation upto know is:
-------------------- Buffon
Zebina --- Andrade -- Criscito -- Chiellini
Salihamidizc -- Almiron -- Zanetti -- Nedved
------ Trezeguet ----- Del Piero
And when Camoranesi is ready, he should play in Salihamdizc position and either play Zebina as RB or Salihamdizc.
First of all lets start with the Inter game:
Formation: Buffon, Zebina, Andrade, Crischito, Chiellini, Salihamdizc, Almiron, Zanetti, Nedved, Del Piero, Iaquinta.
Defence: We were pretty good. I am really happy with the way we played. It looks like they are welding up together well. Andrade and Criscito were amazing together. On the sides, I was really impressed with Zebina. He played a very good game, one of his best in a long time. I hope his form continues. Chiellini gave his usual solid performance.
Midfield: The key to our formation is here.. And it is Zanetti. He is the player capable of putting the whole team together. With him as a DM our defence he filters ALOT and I mean ALOT of things off our defence line. His passing skills are very good and rarely takes chances or make mistakes. Made one slip but both Andrade and Criscito were there to cover. He really did stop almost all counter attacks or slow them down till the team returned back. For me he is the Man of the Tournament last night. Nedved did not look in form looked tired and lacked concentration. Almiron and salihamidizc were good. In general the mid field was creative and solild.
Offence: iaquinta continue on putting the big question mark on his performance. My only thoughts about thim are that either he still needs time to adapt to the teams formation and then he will explode. OR he will be another flop. So he's either going to be very good or extremely bad. He moved around the field, had some chances which one expect him to take better. His one touch plays looked interesting but needs more adaptation and understanding with the whole squad. Del Piero played well. as always his passes and ball possesion are amazing, let alone his skills. His fighting spirit looked good too. Not so worried about getting injured although got some nasty tackles. Was very creative. I still want him to concentrate more with the freekicks. All his corners were absilutely dangerous.
Against Milan:
Formation: Buffon, Grygera, Andrade, Criscito, Molinaro, Nocerino, Zanetti (Olivera), Nedved (Iaquinta), Almiron, Trezeguet, palladino
Defence: Andrade and Criscito gave the same performance as the inter game. Grygera looked lost. Did not participate alot in defending the centrally unlike Zebina in the first game. But he's excused new to the team and just recevored from an injury. Molinaro played alright. But it seems that currently our best choices are chiellini and Zebina.
Midfield: Was alright.. Solid but not as creative as the first game. The fact that Del Piero wasn't there really showed up in creativity. One Zanettli got off the field you can really notice that the one filtering the attacks of the other team is gone. All counter attacks reach to the defence or even the goalkeeper. Nedved was not very present with his creativity yet he gave solidity to our midfield. Nocerino was alright still needs more experience but has all the pontentials to be a great player. Olivera...... well..... Didn't do much.
Offence: Palladino lacks experience when put against the likes of Inter and Milan. Still needs to develop but hopefully will get there. Trezeguet tried but wasn't receiving alot fo feeds from the midfield. Iaquinta didn't do much.
C. Ranieri: His words are turning in reality slowly for that I show my respect. But it will come down to what he choses to be his first lineup. The team is welding up together well. We might not be as sparkling as AC Milan but we are sure up there with the big guns. It also appears that CR wanted another CB but the club budget was not enough to buy him a decent one, I respect the choice of sticking with what he has rather than buying a player who would be an aweful waste of money.
I think our best formation upto know is:
-------------------- Buffon
Zebina --- Andrade -- Criscito -- Chiellini
Salihamidizc -- Almiron -- Zanetti -- Nedved
------ Trezeguet ----- Del Piero
And when Camoranesi is ready, he should play in Salihamdizc position and either play Zebina as RB or Salihamdizc.
Good ratings, I agree, except for Palladino's rating. I would have given him a (much) lower rating. As always, he looked good on the ball, but he does little to nothing concrete. His play lacks too much purpose and effenciency. Making nice turns and doing a few neat moves with the outside of the boot is nice and all, but goals and assists is what I want to see from him.
Indeed, this is our best possible line up we can up right now,
for many reasons, Zebina seems more fit than Grygera, i disagree for the use of Hasan as a RB, he isnt that solid in the defensive department and IMHO opinion, the defenders main priority should of been the defense, i mean if they dont do it who will??
I do trust Zebina and Grygera a little bit more at their defensive work as RB and they can occasionally help with the construction of our play, i cant see any reason to insist on using Biri at that position, i dont why CR does that regularly...
The CB is clear, we will eventually find a team/victim to offload Legro and mistake prone Boum boum will happily accept the sub role,
Zebina and Chiellini are far more useful on the wings and we shouldnt sacrifice their skills and play much lesser solution like Molinaro and Biri as starters just to raise the CB quality a bit, i mean Chiellini as LB >>> Molinaro as LB
while Chiellini as CB is just > than Criscito as CB, the overall quality of our defense is better if we use the best possible solution for every single place.
On the midfield we ve always had better results when having a real DM and a creative DM, so the twins Almiron/Tiago Zanetti/Nocerino should be paired and not mixed, Almiron ans Zanetti seem more exp/fit/adapted at the moment
As for the attack, the situation is clear, Trezequet will be our main target man both in 2 and in a 3 man attack, Zalayeta the main sub for this role and we still have 3 supporting forwards, plenty enough to use the trident once in a while...
for many reasons, Zebina seems more fit than Grygera, i disagree for the use of Hasan as a RB, he isnt that solid in the defensive department and IMHO opinion, the defenders main priority should of been the defense, i mean if they dont do it who will??
I do trust Zebina and Grygera a little bit more at their defensive work as RB and they can occasionally help with the construction of our play, i cant see any reason to insist on using Biri at that position, i dont why CR does that regularly...
The CB is clear, we will eventually find a team/victim to offload Legro and mistake prone Boum boum will happily accept the sub role,
Zebina and Chiellini are far more useful on the wings and we shouldnt sacrifice their skills and play much lesser solution like Molinaro and Biri as starters just to raise the CB quality a bit, i mean Chiellini as LB >>> Molinaro as LB
while Chiellini as CB is just > than Criscito as CB, the overall quality of our defense is better if we use the best possible solution for every single place.
On the midfield we ve always had better results when having a real DM and a creative DM, so the twins Almiron/Tiago Zanetti/Nocerino should be paired and not mixed, Almiron ans Zanetti seem more exp/fit/adapted at the moment
As for the attack, the situation is clear, Trezequet will be our main target man both in 2 and in a 3 man attack, Zalayeta the main sub for this role and we still have 3 supporting forwards, plenty enough to use the trident once in a while...
Beh, maybe. But look at it this way: it's better for Juve and Tiago to struggle in the first two to three matches and get better afterwards than it is for Tiago wasting his time on the bench and getting all insecure. If a player doesn't start playing well after a month or so, they usually don't recover within the season.