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Badass J Elkann

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Feb 12, 2006
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you were saying juve deserved to go down to b? how bout milan, fiorentina, lazio? didnt they deserve to do down as well? let me ask you.. dont you find it fishy about the whole calciopoli? something must have happened which we(fans) dont know.. rossi as figc commissioner.. telecom italia etc.. and why facchetti's phone tape isnt punished?
the power of association - dirty business
 

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    the power of association - dirty business
    and some to add.. why so coincidence juve got relagated after the death of the 2 agnelli after 4 years? i tell u why.. coz, there's no one in power to defence juve.. and i can honestly tell u.. juve have no power in italian football and is weak ever since the 2 agnelli passed away..
     

    PhRoZeN

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    Mar 29, 2006
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    and some to add.. why so coincidence juve got relagated after the death of the 2 agnelli after 4 years? i tell u why.. coz, there's no one in power to defence juve.. and i can honestly tell u.. juve have no power in italian football and is weak ever since the 2 agnelli passed away..
    Wrong thread to have the discussion in but definetly agree.. :agree:
     

    Snoop

    Sabet is a nasty virgin
    Oct 2, 2001
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    TBH pretty much everyone was pro-Capello and pro-Zlatan. I have always disliked their complete lack of class, but I don't recall many others agreeing with me.
    Everyone was Pro-Capello and Pro-Zlatan?? are you sure you are talking about this forum?
     

    Bjerknes

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    Mar 16, 2004
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    Yeah actually, they were. There were exceptions to the rule but up until late in the 05/06 season most people were pro-Cap/Zlat.
    I have to agree with Stu and Seven here, snoop. Most of the time people were blasting the likes of denco, Vinni and I for our dislike of Capello and his tactics, plus the laziness of Zlatan, most notably in his second season. I still believe that our criticism towards him and his lack of class was justified.
     

    Bjerknes

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    Think of his tactics what you will, his track record is still amazing. Two scudetti in as many attempts. Always in top spot, during his time with us. He was a perfect fit for us at the time, certainly a perfect fit for the triade. All about winning.
    We had probably the most compact and defensive side in the world on paper, especially through the middle with Thuram, Cannavaro, Emerson and Vieira. The Serie A of 2005/2006 was ugly as nobody really stood out and played exceptionally well. Capello's track record is indeed amazing, but I attribute most of his success with Juventus and Real Madrid due to other clubs wasting opportunities and simply choking. Capello's tactics were simple and particulary disgusting, just like the sort of man he is.

    Just to show you how overrated Capello was with us, we supposedly had the best defensively structured side in the world, but we were absolutely owned by Werder Bremen, Liverpool and Arsenal in the Champions League. That sort of speaks for itself really.
     

    Badass J Elkann

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    We had probably the most compact and defensive side in the world on paper, especially through the middle with Thuram, Cannavaro, Emerson and Vieira. The Serie A of 2005/2006 was ugly as nobody really stood out and played exceptionally well. Capello's track record is indeed amazing, but I attribute most of his success with Juventus and Real Madrid due to other clubs wasting opportunities and simply choking. Capello's tactics were simple and particulary disgusting, just like the sort of man he is.

    Just to show you how overrated Capello was with us, we supposedly had the best defensively structured side in the world, but we were absolutely owned by Werder Bremen, Liverpool and Arsenal in the Champions League. That sort of speaks for itself really.
    capello's problem is that he was suited for italy with his ultra compact defence, but its something that couldnt be deployed in europe, capello's lack of ability to adapt to continental football was juve's downfall in europe, which is why he will never win a european cup with any team again. 10+ years he may of gotten away with it but now football in europe has changed too much for capello to adapt to
     

    Vinman

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    Jul 16, 2002
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    I wont bore everyone with the play by play of what happened last night, and I won't be praising Ranieri (or should I say sucking his dick like chicken hawk and fish-gills do).

    Fact is Napoli out-played us in game number one. They controlled the midfield, beating us in numbers (5 versus our 3), and had a few good attempts as well (Dalla Bona should have scored when he just walked in without being touched, and had a good blast from 20 yards out).

    DP saved the game, plain and simple. He must have realized that his team was putting very little together offensively, and decided to take matters into his own hands. Bravo Ale !!

    Iaquinta proved me right once again (he'll NEVER let me down) by showing that he is a colossal waste of money and has limited skills. The traingle attack will never work with that waste of space in there.

    In game two against what seemed to be Inter's primavera side, it took BUMsong less than 2 minutes to fuck things up, and because of him, Inter was on the board faster than you can say "guidorossifuckedus". Secco, dont sell him....GIVE HIM AWAY !!! I am sick of ppl on this forum making excuses for this guy...he isnt Juve material, plain and simple. Go find a Serie C2 team that you will fit in

    And speaking of sending guys out of here, why hasnt the door slammed shut on Olivera, Legro, Blasi and Zalayeta as well ??

    Someone posted the fact that Zalayeta saved his job last night....my question is "what exactly did he do ??" He missed the net on several occasions, we could bring in plenty of bums from a bus station who could do the exact same thing, so why not sign them too ??

    I am not confident in this team, nor its coach right now, and if things dont improve with our GAMEPLAY very soon, then we may be struggling at mid table

    M.A.R.K. said:
    Word. I know some specialists for this (Andy, Vinman, etc....)
    words of wisdom from the chicken hawk :tdown: :disagree:
     

    Bjerknes

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    capello's problem is that he was suited for italy with his ultra compact defence, but its something that couldnt be deployed in europe, capello's lack of ability to adapt to continental football was juve's downfall in europe, which is why he will never win a european cup with any team again. 10+ years he may of gotten away with it but now football in europe has changed too much for capello to adapt to
    You're preaching to the choir, Mr. Badass.
     

    Bjerknes

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    I wont bore everyone with the play by play of what happened last night, and I won't be praising Ranieri (or should I say sucking his dick like chicken hawk and fish-gills do).

    Fact is Napoli out-played us in game number one. They controlled the midfield, beating us in numbers (5 versus our 3), and had a few good attempts as well (Dalla Bona should have scored when he just walked in without being touched, and had a good blast from 20 yards out).
    I personally wouldn't say Napoli outplayed us, as we did have a good amount of possession. In fact, I'd call the match more of a stalemate where Ale came to save us once again.

    Iaquinta proved me right once again (he'll NEVER let me down) by showing that he is a colossal waste of money and has limited skills. The traingle attack will never work with that waste of space in there.

    Someone posted the fact that Zalayeta saved his job last night....my question is "what exactly did he do ??" He missed the net on several occasions, we could bring in plenty of bums from a bus station who could do the exact same thing, so why not sign them too ??
    While many people think Zalayeta is worthless, I have to say he sure as hell looked better than Iaquinta last night. In all honesty, considering the amount we payed Udinese, we should have just kept Zalayeta and spent some money on a younger, more useful striker. That would have made more sense. Hell, even Saviola is a better player than that guy.
     

    Badass J Elkann

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    I personally wouldn't say Napoli outplayed us, as we did have a good amount of possession. In fact, I'd call the match more of a stalemate where Ale came to save us once again.


    While many people think Zalayeta is worthless, I have to say he sure as hell looked better than Iaquinta last night. In all honesty, considering the amount we payed Udinese, we should have just kept Zalayeta and spent some money on a younger, more useful striker. That would have made more sense. Hell, even Saviola is a better player than that guy.
    juve should of won that by more than 1 goal but no need to say why we didnt.

    should of bought boji or kept micco not bothered with iaquinta and invested that elsewhere, very bad business from the board especially at how miccoli has gone for 3 mill and is more of a proven goalscorer than iaquinta who cost nearly 4 times.
     

    Bjerknes

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    ßömßäяdîëя;1426002 said:
    Fuck......
    You see, Michael. This is where we discuss football and formulate meaningful paragraphs. I know it's hard to understand, but you have to be able to read to join us in here. You'll be able to participate one day though, little one.
     

    Bjerknes

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    should of bought boji or kept micco not bothered with iaquinta and invested that elsewhere, very bad business from the board especially at how miccoli has gone for 3 mill and is more of a proven goalscorer than iaquinta who cost nearly 4 times.
    I don't think Miccoli is that great either, but you do have a point. I'm not sure which player is the more proven goalscorer as both are overrated. Either way, I didn't want either of them here. We should have signed Saviola when we had the chance... he's a quick player just like Iaquinta.

    But oh wait, he's not a "World Champion." Whoopdeefuckingdoo.
     

    Badass J Elkann

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    I don't think Miccoli is that great either, but you do have a point. I'm not sure which player is the more proven goalscorer as both are overrated. Either way, I didn't want either of them here. We should have signed Saviola when we had the chance... he's a quick player just like Iaquinta.

    But oh wait, he's not a "World Champion." Whoopdeefuckingdoo.
    well from what i saw at benfica and his limited time at juve and fiorentina his crossing and shooting is better than iaquinta, but anyhow miccoli was ours and cost us nothing, iaquinta 11 mill - no brainer

    as for saviola id still take bojinov ahead of him. i truely cant get over the fact we spent 11 mill on sum1 who only offers pace, jees thats such a typical english signing a walcott type signing. :tdown:
     

    Bjerknes

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    So probably both of you wouldn't like to see him (Capello) as CT of L'Azzurri either? Donadoni's too inexperienced at that level, & even if he gets Italy to the Euro Championships, what's he going to do? Capello's got to be better surely?
    Well, if I was making the decision, the only job I'd give Capello for the Azzurri is the guy who stuffs luggage into the bus.
     

    Badass J Elkann

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    So probably both of you wouldn't like to see him (Capello) as CT of L'Azzurri either? Donadoni's too inexperienced at that level, & even if he gets Italy to the Euro Championships, what's he going to do? Capello's got to be better surely?
    capello would be a failure for the azzurri hes a fantastic manager at club domestic level but continental/international - he simply cant adapt omg could u imagine? the lack of defensive mids in italy would prompt him to give blasi a call up
     

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