Trayvon Martin (3 Viewers)
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Meh, I'd like to think of myself as an educated American and if anything it looks like they're just falling prey to the media BS going around. Which I guess makes them look like normal people and not monsters. But that's just a very insensitive statement if anything. As far as the justice system is concerned, Trayvon was the criminal.
Yes, they are capitalizing on the media coverage on the death of a black kid as a vehicle to try to get their message across. The memory of a dead child is being used to sell a Syrian cause. It's no different than if that memory of the dead child was used to sell Skittles or Iced Tea or Coca-Cola or Disneyworld: that's the exploitation part.
It's a vicious act in general to do that especially if that agenda is oriented towards having a selfish gain, but did you consider they might suffer as much as Trayvon's family and probably, with all due respect, way worse than them? Syria is overlooked because it's a complicated situation. Also, no offense but I think your point of view is a twisted one, I think Trayvon's parents are the best persons to know what those people feel. It is not dishonest or unhealthy as it is not for a bad cause or for bad intentions. They feel the same. You lose someone, you understand the feeling of those that deal with losing people they care about on a DAILY basis; some affected multiple times. AND that doesn't stop.
What if they are sincere too? You have compassion, but it's not exclusive to feel something about your situation. You see, there is a huge mobilization for the Trayvon case, and the world cares and is watching, other situations are left out. Won't change either no matter what, so at least you can understand that. I have no doubt they are honest in their wishes, they understand, and they don't have bad intentions. Compassion, you know?
What if they are sincere too? You have compassion, but it's not exclusive to feel something about your situation. You see, there is a huge mobilization for the Trayvon case, and the world cares and is watching, other situations are left out. Won't change either no matter what, so at least you can understand that. I have no doubt they are honest in their wishes, they understand, and they don't have bad intentions. Compassion, you know?
I don't think they have bad intentions, it's just that you can say they might be talking out of place without knowing all the facts and just trying to appeal to the American public. What about Zimmerman's parents? The guy's been getting death threats for what is considered protecting himself and everyone instead is talking about how Trayvon was done wrong.
I'm not familiar with the laws in Florida or the complete situation regarding Trayvon's death, but from the few info I gathered in the media over here is that everything Zimmerman did was legal, for the rest I think there's just no proof. However, I don't really understand why that 'stand your ground' law is implemented in that state, don't know if it's because of where I'm from but I think that's asking for trouble.
Zimmerman's parents and himself are not in a pleasant situation that's for sure.
Zimmerman's parents and himself are not in a pleasant situation that's for sure.
People in this country just devour a little drama like this to get them by their days.
As a nation and especially those that are talking the loudest on this subject need to address black on black crime. Maybe when you start to respect and value the lives of your 'own kind', maybe then others will start to value yours too.
We also need to address modern day segregation & ghettoization. A city like Potomac in Montgomery County, populated by successful businessmen, lawyers, doctors, politicians, athletes, etc. and is considered among the best places to live in the nation, has laws that ban the opening of businesses such as 7-11's, pawn shops, strip clubs, etc. because they won't want 'randoms'/the wrong element coming into their area. 'Randoms' being sugar coating for blacks, hispanics, brownies, druggies, prostitutes, etc. and where liquor stores are required to shut down early...but drive 20-25 min in either direction to say Prince George's County, which has one of the highest population of African American's, and you'll find 7-11's, late night liquor stores, pawn shops, strip clubs, and soon maybe even a casino. Is this just a coincidence?
As a nation and especially those that are talking the loudest on this subject need to address black on black crime. Maybe when you start to respect and value the lives of your 'own kind', maybe then others will start to value yours too.
We also need to address modern day segregation & ghettoization. A city like Potomac in Montgomery County, populated by successful businessmen, lawyers, doctors, politicians, athletes, etc. and is considered among the best places to live in the nation, has laws that ban the opening of businesses such as 7-11's, pawn shops, strip clubs, etc. because they won't want 'randoms'/the wrong element coming into their area. 'Randoms' being sugar coating for blacks, hispanics, brownies, druggies, prostitutes, etc. and where liquor stores are required to shut down early...but drive 20-25 min in either direction to say Prince George's County, which has one of the highest population of African American's, and you'll find 7-11's, late night liquor stores, pawn shops, strip clubs, and soon maybe even a casino. Is this just a coincidence?
So this becomes a suffering contest where Trayvon's parents are told, "Sorry, you lose."?
Nice.
Oh, come on. 99%+ of Syrians know shit all about Treyvon Martin's situation other than he's a vehicle to try to weasel attention in a foreign country.
Hell, virtually all of the posters on these forums who aren't in the U.S. know nothing about the circumstances surrounding his death and the ensuing trial. I can't expect that people dealing with their own headaches in Syria have the time, let alone the deserved attention, to waste on a court case in the U.S. with all that going on at home.
To those Syrians, Treyvon Martin is little more than the Harlem Shake plus 6 months. Which isn't to say they should give a damn about him, because they shouldn't. But let's be honest about intentions here.
Nice.
Oh, come on. 99%+ of Syrians know shit all about Treyvon Martin's situation other than he's a vehicle to try to weasel attention in a foreign country.
Hell, virtually all of the posters on these forums who aren't in the U.S. know nothing about the circumstances surrounding his death and the ensuing trial. I can't expect that people dealing with their own headaches in Syria have the time, let alone the deserved attention, to waste on a court case in the U.S. with all that going on at home.
To those Syrians, Treyvon Martin is little more than the Harlem Shake plus 6 months. Which isn't to say they should give a damn about him, because they shouldn't. But let's be honest about intentions here.
You missed my point, it was not about how much one suffered or whether one has suffered more than the other; all I meant was that it was not for a dishonest selfish gain. Important to notice.
But even then, I'm truly sorry but those two situations are not even close to be comparable and unfortunately, yes, it's notable. Someone that has lived something worse shows you compassion? Show gratitude.
I'll be honest I followed the Trayvor situation in a very basic way myself, will look more into it even if I think it's a situation blown out of proportion. You'd be surprised at how well documented it is here in Canada, it is very well informed on the situation, I assure you.
I think what's important behind all this was the intentions of those Syrians, but I do agree with you that since they probably don't have knowledge of what happened maybe they could also be in the wrong or that it can be misplaced. That I agree with, but saying it's a vicious way of passing a message is really out of place. Caring about the situation of others and its own (by promoting it, in this case), are not exclusive and that's the important thing. In both cases you're also standing behind the same principle.
But even then, I'm truly sorry but those two situations are not even close to be comparable and unfortunately, yes, it's notable. Someone that has lived something worse shows you compassion? Show gratitude.
I'll be honest I followed the Trayvor situation in a very basic way myself, will look more into it even if I think it's a situation blown out of proportion. You'd be surprised at how well documented it is here in Canada, it is very well informed on the situation, I assure you.
I think what's important behind all this was the intentions of those Syrians, but I do agree with you that since they probably don't have knowledge of what happened maybe they could also be in the wrong or that it can be misplaced. That I agree with, but saying it's a vicious way of passing a message is really out of place. Caring about the situation of others and its own (by promoting it, in this case), are not exclusive and that's the important thing. In both cases you're also standing behind the same principle.