Top Mass Murderers in History (3 Viewers)
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Martin.
I don't know about efficient, but definitely hugely impactful. Colonization was basically an exercise in how to conquer people, grab their territories, find all the natural resources. I suppose you could say that sometime after resistance had been squashed and the natives had been reduced to second class citizens, then yes they built a railroad and telegraph lines and other western goodies. But this was all at the point of a sword, no doubt about it.
I guess you could say the Vikings had an early version of this.
I guess you could say the Vikings had an early version of this.
First off the list might be pretty accurate. Yes, maybe at some point in time there was someone who was responsible for over 70 million deaths. But at least with Mao we can be fairly sure it was about 70 million. You can talk about the British Empire all you want, but fact is that the British Empire was not one guy and that it's not exactly clear who got killed how and when.
I honestly don't see why you are so annoyed because we condemn Mao. Where did I say Leopold was a great man?
I honestly don't see why you are so annoyed because we condemn Mao. Where did I say Leopold was a great man?
Its not just you, he is being the perfect example of the knee jerk argumenting I was referring to (Salman is way worse though 
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I mean Stalin and Hitler are big fucking boogeymen to even the monsters on that list and European. But somehow Ze deems it necessary to totally pointlessly and irrevelanty out of the blue, remind Seven that Europeans did this or that, just because its Mao who was mentionned. I mean, seriously Ze, in a list with Hitler and Stalin topping it, you really think Europeans are being overlooked? WTF are you on about really?
There must be an ulterior motive, because you really cant be that clueless to deem it necessary to remind others here of the violent evils of Europeans when its painstakingly clear which figures the topic is about, and the continent the top worst ones are from...
). I mean Stalin and Hitler are big fucking boogeymen to even the monsters on that list and European. But somehow Ze deems it necessary to totally pointlessly and irrevelanty out of the blue, remind Seven that Europeans did this or that, just because its Mao who was mentionned. I mean, seriously Ze, in a list with Hitler and Stalin topping it, you really think Europeans are being overlooked? WTF are you on about really?
There must be an ulterior motive, because you really cant be that clueless to deem it necessary to remind others here of the violent evils of Europeans when its painstakingly clear which figures the topic is about, and the continent the top worst ones are from...
That's pretty much how I feel. It must have something to do with the fact that I'm rather anti-China on a lot of issues TODAY (which I will never deny), but I don't see how that really matters.
This list is pretty modern history (except the jokish entry of GOD), BECAUSE its sure fire science to count casualties in these modern times, why further back its just idle speculation mostly.
We could say for example the Timurids were the Maos of their time, their Khan being responsible for an estimated 30-40m dead more or less. But firstly, not only is virtually hard to confirm that and is just vague guessing game based on rare obscure history documents (estimates can wildly vary basd on the biasm of the sources). But also the expectations and set standard of things were quite different from way back then (depend on how far back), to the more civilized modern times. Back then, it wasnt really so "bad" to going around killing everything in sight, for lack of better words.
They were less likely, to say the least, to scrutinize eachother and name their own Hitlers and set him as the benchmark for evil. On the contrary, usually the most evil massmurdering son of a bitch was completely worshipped, and had the title GREAT added to his name, with every other nation envying them for not having an own massmurdering leader like that
(Not only blaming our ancestors, we are guilty of it too, not just seeing it in historical context, but we nostalgically semi worship the most awesome massmurderers of our history).
I hope the made the distinction clear enough. Its quite essential an evil list like this is modern, to make sense. Otherwise it would be pointless and counter productive. If we count non modern times, we would be more likely to discuss who is the greatest, not who is the most evil (it would sound odd calling Caesar and Alexander evil, doesnt it? Even if it makes sense with our standards). Not much different between that mostly, except the tides of time.
We could say for example the Timurids were the Maos of their time, their Khan being responsible for an estimated 30-40m dead more or less. But firstly, not only is virtually hard to confirm that and is just vague guessing game based on rare obscure history documents (estimates can wildly vary basd on the biasm of the sources). But also the expectations and set standard of things were quite different from way back then (depend on how far back), to the more civilized modern times. Back then, it wasnt really so "bad" to going around killing everything in sight, for lack of better words.
They were less likely, to say the least, to scrutinize eachother and name their own Hitlers and set him as the benchmark for evil. On the contrary, usually the most evil massmurdering son of a bitch was completely worshipped, and had the title GREAT added to his name, with every other nation envying them for not having an own massmurdering leader like that
(Not only blaming our ancestors, we are guilty of it too, not just seeing it in historical context, but we nostalgically semi worship the most awesome massmurderers of our history). I hope the made the distinction clear enough. Its quite essential an evil list like this is modern, to make sense. Otherwise it would be pointless and counter productive. If we count non modern times, we would be more likely to discuss who is the greatest, not who is the most evil (it would sound odd calling Caesar and Alexander evil, doesnt it? Even if it makes sense with our standards). Not much different between that mostly, except the tides of time.
