++ [ originally posted by Zlatan
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Good post Majed
Anyways, this hasnt been going on for just a week as many think, this has been going on for months now, ever since Martin's "crackdown" on off topivness and members who go off topic. We've lost many good and fun members because of that and the whole atmosphere of the forum has worsened.
yeah, I know it's been going on for a while. It's been great to have nice give and take arguments about football. Even reading them is fun. However, the transition to make the forums more "complete" has NOT been successful. A lot of members had to take shit (i do not mean football knowledge shit, I mean subliminal insults, or even unrelavent posts which were obviously written for the sole purpose of pissing members off) from some people who were very arrogant at the time (or maybe it's more approrpriate to say that their posts were since i dont know them personaly). Anyway, they weren't warned much and that bothered me. Their footballing knowledge was surely welcomed, but their rudeness and disrespect went unwarned because of their good footballing points.
IMO, nobody has a right to disprespect anyone. Your footballing knowledge doesn't, niether does your age.
Please note that i dont see the issue completely black and white. Members who couldn't hack the football arguments shouldn't have degraded themselves and made personal insults as replies. These posters should take a step back, learn something, then reply IF they're ready.
It's sad that fun members like Anders (who could make some great arguments have left....maybe not only because of the forum's situation, but i'm sure it had an influence). I also think that the atmosphere now is detremental. instead of trying to mix the well-spoken and analytical people with the younger and/or less knowledgeable ones, the mood and disrespect encoureges the segregation of these two groups. That's not only unhealthy for the friendly asmosphere, but it's also distructive.
I also have a little note for those who are disrespectful to members who make small mistakes regarding football facts: Ley off the smart-ass comments, and the uselss eyerolls. If it isn't constructive, then it should not come out of your mouth (or be typed by your fingures).
There's a saying I'd like to share that most little kids are taught. people, take note: "If you dont have anything " nice" (i'd like to change it to "constructive") to say, then dont say anything at all.
PS: occasionally talking about Buffon's hair, his ass are whatever, is indeed constructive for quite a few members IF it's in its appropriate thread. It provides a common ground for memebers to get closer and it makes a friendlier environment. I dont see how it can harm the football-serious memebrs.
Note to the older and/or more knowledgable members: Be an Example. If you think people aren't up to your level, at least encourage that they learn by showing some respect. Pissing and moaning about not having smart enough members isn't going to help anything. I understand that your here to argue, but a little extra effort in being a model can only do good.
Everyone, show some love and do your best to show some brains too....
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