To all those whom I offended yesterday... (16 Viewers)
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I have no idea what happened. But actually I think Seven makes a great point. I think if you insulted muslims, even after a few beers or out of frustration or whatnots, that doesnt exactly make you a racist per se or whatever - but it does show that the sentiment is there, however vague.
And to me, that's okay. I think it's naive if people think we're all not racists and deny that sentiments like these exist. After all the history and wars and on goings in this world how can you NOT feel anything? It's just a matter of control and rationalizing with yourself and respecting one another on a day to day basis, like you with your Muslim friend, and you've never insulted Muslims on this forum and respect their POVs as far as I know. So yea you slipped up but you say sorry, which is great and all's forgiven.
I'm saying this, because though this is shameful and wrong it's the truth, (and it's a common practice in Malaysia) - we have 3 main races in the country, and though we are interracial and mix really well at an individual basis .. the bigger picture is not so rosy. There's a generalization that the chinese malaysians are irritatingly competitive and rude, so when I drive, likewise with other people, and some chinese guy cuts me off and we get pissed and we'll start saying something like "fucking chinese!" etc. Does that make me a racist? In a way, yes. But do I respect them any less or treat them differently? No, in fact my best friends are Chinese. But there's that sentiment there somewhere.
And to me, that's okay. I think it's naive if people think we're all not racists and deny that sentiments like these exist. After all the history and wars and on goings in this world how can you NOT feel anything? It's just a matter of control and rationalizing with yourself and respecting one another on a day to day basis, like you with your Muslim friend, and you've never insulted Muslims on this forum and respect their POVs as far as I know. So yea you slipped up but you say sorry, which is great and all's forgiven.
I'm saying this, because though this is shameful and wrong it's the truth, (and it's a common practice in Malaysia) - we have 3 main races in the country, and though we are interracial and mix really well at an individual basis .. the bigger picture is not so rosy. There's a generalization that the chinese malaysians are irritatingly competitive and rude, so when I drive, likewise with other people, and some chinese guy cuts me off and we get pissed and we'll start saying something like "fucking chinese!" etc. Does that make me a racist? In a way, yes. But do I respect them any less or treat them differently? No, in fact my best friends are Chinese. But there's that sentiment there somewhere.
I dont know what you said or what happened V, but you said sorry, your forgiven 
And word to the wise, dont mind Seven, i find it laughable that he's talking about racism anyway.
And word to the wise, dont mind Seven, i find it laughable that he's talking about racism anyway.
And don't forgive people. You're in no position to do as such. And to be honest, Lou, neither are christians. God's the one who forgives. Christians just shut up and don't talk about each other's sins. Which is why you get to do whatever it is you do with little Liam from next door without anyone ever saying anything about it.
There is also no muslim race, but implying there is one is quite racist, Alen
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There is also no muslim race, but implying there is one is quite racist, Alen .
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Actually, i'm much closer to you in my personal beliefs, although you're much more radical and i disagree about some of your views.
I hope i won't touch a soft spot, but i really can't understand why do some of the muslims HERE (in these forums, so don't take it as generalization) often call for racism when someone writes a post that criticizes something connected to Islam.
It gives an impression as if you're opressed, undervalued 2nd category citizens which certainly isn't true.
I dont know what you said, and when when I checked up, every thing you said seemed to have been in croatian. But yesterday was a fucked up unique sitaution, unless you really went overboard, its understandable to lose ones cool after an insanely heartbreaking ending like that. You are usually a cool guy from what one have noticed, so one uncharacteristic outburst isnt much.
The cros I know personally, even the really nice and docile ones, went totally emotionally bezerk yesterday (called them and they were really emotional wrecks as I have never seen before), so it was quite a fucked up gutting experience regardless of who you are last night (though being "racist" in any circumstances is uncool).
P.S Martin din jävel, eru en admin igen?
The cros I know personally, even the really nice and docile ones, went totally emotionally bezerk yesterday (called them and they were really emotional wrecks as I have never seen before), so it was quite a fucked up gutting experience regardless of who you are last night (though being "racist" in any circumstances is uncool).
P.S Martin din jävel, eru en admin igen?
Sorry.
I've been on this forum for a number of years and I believe I get on with the most of you. I don't think I've ever stooped so low here and attacked people because of nothing (practically), so I apologise.
I really don't know what I achieved to make mysel feel better by attacking people on the internet, but we don't have much muslims here in Zagreb so...it was either that or take it out on the city's public transportation like the rest of the idiots. I believe I made the correct choice.
All in all, it was a horrible night with lots of beer and in the end, lots of desperation. I'm sure most of you understand me and believe me when I say; I've nothing against muslims or anyone(except m_elayyan) and I'm sorry for being a jerk.
I've been on this forum for a number of years and I believe I get on with the most of you. I don't think I've ever stooped so low here and attacked people because of nothing (practically), so I apologise.
I really don't know what I achieved to make mysel feel better by attacking people on the internet, but we don't have much muslims here in Zagreb so...it was either that or take it out on the city's public transportation like the rest of the idiots. I believe I made the correct choice.
All in all, it was a horrible night with lots of beer and in the end, lots of desperation. I'm sure most of you understand me and believe me when I say; I've nothing against muslims or anyone(except m_elayyan) and I'm sorry for being a jerk.
Well, to be truthful, guys, vlatko is apologizing for what he posted about Turks and people in Turkey -- not necessarily about Muslims at all per se (though some might debate that).
Still, that issue has past. Let's move on. I'm actually really impressed that vlatko showed the balls to come out an apologize for it.
To be honest, it probably wasn't all that necessary since the thread was deleted right away, but it's a classy gesture.
Word to you, mate.
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vlatko. :hug:
Still, that issue has past. Let's move on. I'm actually really impressed that vlatko showed the balls to come out an apologize for it.
To be honest, it probably wasn't all that necessary since the thread was deleted right away, but it's a classy gesture.Word to you, mate.
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vlatko. :hug:
