Tiago Mendes (44 Viewers)

Geof

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May 14, 2004
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L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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This could be the reason why Tiago didn't get a chance.
Really? If this was an issue, wouldn't you think that Ranieri would have convinced the board to not spend their biggest transfer of the summer on his signing in the first place?
 

Thunderball

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May 4, 2007
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I guess Tiago wasn't a Ranieri pickup in Chelsea.

My guess is he saw something in Tiago that made him think he could be a superstar in Italy. Once he got him there, he realized that he's just not the right player. Luckily, Zanetti and Nocerino have stepped up.


I have a feeling in light of Blanc's comments that the Tiago experiment ends in January.
 
Sep 19, 2006
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I guess Tiago wasn't a Ranieri pickup in Chelsea.

My guess is he saw something in Tiago that made him think he could be a superstar in Italy. Once he got him there, he realized that he's just not the right player. Luckily, Zanetti and Nocerino have stepped up.


I have a feeling in light of Blanc's comments that the Tiago experiment ends in January.
He realized this from one lousy match against a crappy team,this makes no sense.

I still have great faith that Ranieri will finally give him the chance & that he will step up & be one of the most important players in our team.
We were never the kind of team who ruin players & hopefully we will never be.
I have faith in Ranieri


Forza Tiago
 

Red

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Nov 26, 2006
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Good response from Secco.

I sympathise with Tiago, but these matters shoud be dealt with internally. Players should not go whining to the press.
 
Mar 30, 2006
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He realized this from one lousy match against a crappy team,this makes no sense.

I still have great faith that Ranieri will finally give him the chance & that he will step up & be one of the most important players in our team.
We were never the kind of team who ruin players & hopefully we will never be.
I have faith in Ranieri


Forza Tiago
hmm well from what i have seen of Tiago i think he is a good player but in terms of character he seems to be spineless and weak

He has no fight

He wants things on a platter. He was upset that he was not an automatic starter at Chelsea and when they got Essien he asked his he could go the other way cuz he felt he would not get playing time. He is afraid of a fight and lacks confidence. He came here thinking he would be first choice. What a pathetic excuse to join a team like Juventus. At least players like Leggro and Boumsong know that you have to preform to play and they at least attempt to fight for a place. Tiago is being kept out of the team by an inexperienced player, Nocerino, yet he does not have the balls to put up a fight ? or even wait a whole season to try to make an impact?

This is not the mentality of a champion and we should wash out hands of Tiago.
Let Nocerino and Almiron battle for his spot.

Trade Tiago for Quaresma!!!
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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hmm well from what i have seen of Tiago i think he is a good player but in terms of character he seems to be spineless and weak

He has no fight
You haven't seen fuckall then. Tiago was loved at Chelsea and was a fan favorite at Lyon where he did his role and played his heart out when the spotlight was on other players and his potential exists.

The only supporters I've ever seen blast Tiago are dunderhead Juventus fans.
 

The Pado

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Jul 12, 2002
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I say start Tiago alongside Nocerino vs. Genoa and let's see what it produces. Both are offensive minded, but Noce has no problem being defensive mid. Give it a try.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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I say start Tiago alongside Nocerino vs. Genoa and let's see what it produces. Both are offensive minded, but Noce has no problem being defensive mid. Give it a try.
I'm not sure if Nocerino is really that offensive minded. He can venture forward rather well, but I see him more as an all-action midfielder who can provide the bite in midfield we need. I'd rather mold him to that defensive side of midfield as that is where I think he'd excel, much more than out on a wing like Ranieri likes to deploy him (idiotic).
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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well where is the fight from him?

Why is he crying about it?
What?

I'm sure he's trying to fight, but if he is being disregarded by the manager, then of course he'll become discouraged - anybody would.

I don't think you have the history to continue on with this discussion, as it's obvious you haven't read the opinions of other fans. So please, stop discussing topics you don't know about.
 

Cuti

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Jul 30, 2006
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He wants things on a platter. He was upset that he was not an automatic starter at Chelsea and when they got Essien he asked his he could go the other way cuz he felt he would not get playing time.
Tiago was offered to Lyon as part of the Essien deal, cause Lyon specifically asked for him to replace the departing Essien, i'm sure Tiago would have remained at Chelsea if he hadn't been asked to leave. I don't see how someone "spineless" could be a fan favourite and the two clubs he was at, i.e. Chelsea and Lyon
 

sateeh

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Jul 28, 2003
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Good point Sat, but anyone in his place would have probably said/done the same.
Yeah I guess you are right and the most recent player to do that was Zebina. Thats more about the personality of the players and the messages that the coach sends out day in day out coupled with the assurances of their roles in the team.


Another thing we have to point is that just like Dominic said, Ranieri is that man that sees the players day in and day out. Tiago had fitness problems since the pre season and he even admitted that. Ranieri is concerned first with getting his best team out and getting the results.If that team doesn't include Tiago or Almiron or Alex then so be it. We saw that even Almiron didn't get many chances, as Ranieri knows which players would give the desired result on the field.

Having said that there were many games where the chances were there to bring on these players, but the coach opted against that and thats the only thing that could bring up the point of a personality clash
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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Yeah I guess you are right and the most recent player to do that was Zebina. Thats more about the personality of the players and the messages that the coach sends out day in day out coupled with the assurances of their roles in the team.


Another thing we have to point is that just like Dominic said, Ranieri is that man that sees the players day in and day out. Tiago had fitness problems since the pre season and he even admitted that. Ranieri is concerned first with getting his best team out and getting the results.If that team doesn't include Tiago or Almiron or Alex then so be it. We saw that even Almiron didn't get many chances, as Ranieri knows which players would give the desired result on the field.

Having said that there were many games where the chances were there to bring on these players, but the coach opted against that and thats the only thing that could bring up the point of a personality clash
Sorry, sateeh, but since when does a professional footballer have chronic fitness problems without any sort of injury? It just doesn't make any sense. Tiago hasn't had any serious injury problems so this current rhetoric is all blowing shit in the wind as far as I am concerned. If Tiago is fit he should be given a chance, and I sort of agree with Tiago if he has come out to say he's been neglected. I have followed this player more than most have and I believe him when he says he's ready but doesnt get a start.
 

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