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Mr. Gol

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Exactly. His style was made for the Premiership, because he is a striker who often falls back to either the left side or the midfield. This gives more freedom to the other attackers because it tears a hole in the standard English 4-4-2. In Serie A most teams play with more then three 'lines', and are more defensive so it's unlikely that Henry will be as dangerous as in England. If you look at the formation that Zlatan posted you can already see that it wouldn't be an ideal situation.

I hope for Arsenal that he stays, although they will have enough problems as Vieira was the cement that kept the midfield together.
 

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mikhail

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++ [ originally posted by Nawaf ] ++
Yeah, but the thing is, they'd have to sacrifice one of those players in order to fit Henry into the team.. Or consider playing with three defenders, but I doubt they want to do that.. :D
Not true. Read my list again. I already included him.

++ [ originally posted by Desmond ] ++
... his style is something that doesn't suit Serie A very well.

He lacks upper body strength and he will have to get used to having disciplined defenders breathing down his neck for 90mins.
He's alway tended to drop away from those players. I don't know if that would be such a problem. If anything, he'd attract the attention of the opposing midfield, opening holes for a good, erm, Nedved, to run at the defense. I realise that's a bit less effective in Italy than in England because of a typically more diciplined defense, but it'll still pay dividends.

The biggest problem he'll have to overcome is having to adapt to teams that aren't built around him and having to play with players of the same or even higher calibre than he is.It's no coincidence that Zidane and he always seem to play better when the other isn't around in the NT.
Ah, now. He's been the best player in England for the past five yaers. If Italy is packed with players of that calibre, Ferguson and his assorted fellow managers have to be among the greatest managers of all time to coax anything even resembling CL performances out of their teams.

++ [ originally posted by Mr. Gol ] ++
Exactly. His style was made for the Premiership, because he is a striker who often falls back to either the left side or the midfield. This gives more freedom to the other attackers because it tears a hole in the standard English 4-4-2. In Serie A most teams play with more then three 'lines',
By three lines, you mean defense, midfield and attack? I don't think Henry's unfamiliar with that concept. ;)

...and are more defensive so it's unlikely that Henry will be as dangerous as in England.
This is true to some extent. Still, when someone with his pace and technique gets a clear run at one of these magical "lines", say the defense, I'll wager he'll cause problems enough.

If you look at the formation that Zlatan posted you can already see that it wouldn't be an ideal situation.
That's because of the attempt to squish him into the current team. It's artificial. Think of him partnering Shevchenko for Milan and you get a more interesting (and worrying!) prospect.

I hope for Arsenal that he stays, although they will have enough problems as Vieira was the cement that kept the midfield together.
I've never been a big fan of Arsenal, but Henry owes them very little these days. He's given a huge chunk of his career to a team who've never been quite good enough for him. They'll survive if he goes, though I doubt they'd be quite up with Man Utd and Chelski any more.
 

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Mar 6, 2005
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++ [ originally posted by mikhail ] ++

Not true. Read my list again. I already included him.
oops.. :embarass: I don't know how I counted one extra..

I've never been a big fan of Arsenal, but Henry owes them very little these days. He's given a huge chunk of his career to a team who've never been quite good enough for him. They'll survive if he goes, though I doubt they'd be quite up with Man Utd and Chelski any more.
... and that's sadly true.. I'm an Arsenal fan.. (or Arsenal are the only team in the EPL I can stand, to be exact), and I'd hate for them to sink down the tables.. :down:
 

Desmond

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Jul 12, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by David Del Piero ] ++
Theirry Henry would be Moggis sickest signing yet :) I would love it!
Actually with Mutu, Del Piero, Zlatan, Trezeguet and Zalayeta already in the squad breaking the bank to get him could be one of the dumbest things he could do.
 

Seven

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Jun 25, 2003
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Look, Henry's failure in Italy is partially due to our different tactics:

In England they tend to use high pressure, which means that they will defend from the midfield line on. In Italy most teams will get back and defend around their own penalty box. Henry's speed becomes pretty useless that way.
 

Mr. Gol

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++ [ originally posted by mikhail ] ++

By three lines, you mean defense, midfield and attack? I don't think Henry's unfamiliar with that concept. ;)
I said more then three lines. In Serie A you can only have the free role that Henry has with Arsenal if you also help out the midfield a lot.

That's because of the attempt to squish him into the current team. It's artificial. Think of him partnering Shevchenko for Milan and you get a more interesting (and worrying!) prospect.
You know that Trezeguet and Ibrahimovic won't leave. Trezeguet's finishing is so good that we cannot cope without him.

I've never been a big fan of Arsenal, but Henry owes them very little these days. He's given a huge chunk of his career to a team who've never been quite good enough for him. They'll survive if he goes, though I doubt they'd be quite up with Man Utd and Chelski any more.
I had always though of Vieira and Henry as their club icons, sort of we have Zambrotta and Del Piero, players that would never leave the club. I was shocked last year when I first heard Vieira talk about leaving. But then again, Arsenal have been playing second fiddle to Man United and now Chelsea for the last decade.
 

difuz

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Sep 23, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by Seven ] ++
Look, Henry's failure in Italy is partially due to our different tactics:

In England they tend to use high pressure, which means that they will defend from the midfield line on. In Italy most teams will get back and defend around their own penalty box. Henry's speed becomes pretty useless that way.
decent analysis, exactly what ive always tought myself
 

- vOnAm -

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Jul 22, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by Seven ] ++
Look, Henry's failure in Italy is partially due to our different tactics:

In England they tend to use high pressure, which means that they will defend from the midfield line on. In Italy most teams will get back and defend around their own penalty box. Henry's speed becomes pretty useless that way.
This is a correct assesment. In the EPL players find so much space because everybody always immediatle pressures the ball carrier, thus with quick feet and speed a player can get by defenses rather quickly.
 

Juventinoo

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Oct 20, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by Juve_Kosova ] ++


Remember this

Vieira to Juve.. What a Joke ?

:D
in terms of our ability to get him....of course it's not a joke ...when we need one..we will get him. in terms of using his skills in our formation...it's a joke..we have enough CFs...unless we offload Zlatan...impossible....Trez...no chance...DP complaining ..and soon Mutu...if henry comes...what do u think will happen...btw..Ramadan Kareem :D
 
May 4, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by Juventinoo ] ++


in terms of our ability to get him....of course it's not a joke ...when we need one..we will get him. in terms of using his skills in our formation...it's a joke..we have enough CFs...unless we offload Zlatan...impossible....Trez...no chance...DP complaining ..and soon Mutu...if henry comes...what do u think will happen...btw..Ramadan Kareem :D
:D

thats true, but wasent really thinking about him as for his skills.. just as a transfer.. u see, we all thought that there was no way Vieria would join... and he DID.. :D so what im saying is that this can really happend...! well lets just wait and see... in january, him or cassano... or maybe in the sommer..!
 
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