Thiago "The Fired Fraud" Motta (196 Viewers)
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#Motta is shaking, #Juve-#Genoa will decide.
A full-term trust for the coach. The CEO #Scanavino and #Giuntoli ask from Thiago to have more discussions with the players.
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#Motta justifies the negative period of #Juve: "We are suffering from an unfavorable calendar: many Sundays in one month"
A full-term trust for the coach. The CEO #Scanavino and #Giuntoli ask from Thiago to have more discussions with the players.
@GnocchiGene - The Ball Breaker
#Motta justifies the negative period of #Juve: "We are suffering from an unfavorable calendar: many Sundays in one month"
Didn't she mind? I don't think so
Was it for real? Damn sure
What was the deal? A pretty girl aged twenty-four
So was she keen? She couldn't wait
Cinnamon queen? Let me update
What did she say? She said she'd love to rendezvous
She asked me what we were gonna do
Said we'd start with a bottle of Moët for two
Monday
Took her for a drink on Tuesday
We were making love by Wednesday
And on Thursday and Friday and Saturday
We chilled on Sunday
I met this girl on Monday
Took her for a drink on Tuesday
We were making love by Wednesday
And on Thursday and Friday and Saturday
We chilled on Sunday
okay, so there's this quote from motta, which is fair enough:
then again:
and it's a perfectly valid point. nicolino is quoting repubblica (can't verify, i'm not a subscriber) saying that motta asked the management to make the players more responsible/accountable. and he's asking a 100% legit question: why they were not held accountable before? was it motta who asked the club not to intervene and let motta handle the squad on his own (which he apparently failed at), or was it the club that let motta do his job and influence the squad, which he apparently failed at?
either way, if la repubblica is right and motta really asked help from the club, it means two things: he lost the locker and therefore should be fired immediately, and giuntoli let motta lose the locker so he should also be fired after the season ends, alongside storari (team manager). this isn't spezia where you have the time to fix shit if something goes south. and it also shows how useless ferrero and scanavino are. we do need a functioning president asap, just call platini already ffs
then again:
and it's a perfectly valid point. nicolino is quoting repubblica (can't verify, i'm not a subscriber) saying that motta asked the management to make the players more responsible/accountable. and he's asking a 100% legit question: why they were not held accountable before? was it motta who asked the club not to intervene and let motta handle the squad on his own (which he apparently failed at), or was it the club that let motta do his job and influence the squad, which he apparently failed at?
either way, if la repubblica is right and motta really asked help from the club, it means two things: he lost the locker and therefore should be fired immediately, and giuntoli let motta lose the locker so he should also be fired after the season ends, alongside storari (team manager). this isn't spezia where you have the time to fix shit if something goes south. and it also shows how useless ferrero and scanavino are. we do need a functioning president asap, just call platini already ffs
At least this guarantees he's a goner at the end of the season.
But honestly this revolving door for coaches can't be the solution. If leadership is poor no matter how good your workers are they won't function as they should. We need a revamp at the top. Being run like a soulless corporation is really taking it's toll.
But honestly this revolving door for coaches can't be the solution. If leadership is poor no matter how good your workers are they won't function as they should. We need a revamp at the top. Being run like a soulless corporation is really taking it's toll.
If this is all true I would blame Motta even less. He’s just an awful person and bad coach. It’s insane that our management hasn’t taken any actions - not only cause of results - but if he has fallen out with 80% of the squad…. Junktoli is the at fault
But also I mentioned months ago that he lost the locker room. That was visible as fuck since November
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But also I mentioned months ago that he lost the locker room. That was visible as fuck since November
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My first impression of him was really positive too. He seemed like the cool uncle and the fact he is closer to their age and was still a player not too long ago made me believe he would easily connect with the players. Guess it’s not the case at all.
But again, he’s only partially to blame. We gotta clean house starting at the top. We need a face, an owner that acts like an owner. It’s the only way this club will regain its dignity.
But again, he’s only partially to blame. We gotta clean house starting at the top. We need a face, an owner that acts like an owner. It’s the only way this club will regain its dignity.
Nice try chatGPT, but I see AI hallucinations are kicking in, some of these are not even real, especially Massimo Di Culo 
it's time to retrain that model.
it's time to retrain that model.
IMO the coach is 95 percent to blame.
Guintoli also but things guintoli is to blame for are leaving signings very late like Koop and Nico. Treatment of Danilo and Chiesa and woj.
But motta wanted Koop. If he didn’t want him
He could have told guintoli. After all no director wants to waste 60m and months chasing a player if the coach doesn’t know how to use him.
Motta played this weird system of using fullbacks as cms and then playing Koop as a winger. No one told him to do that. No one told him to leave subs until minute 79 when chasing games. He can’t come and say management told him that. He’s the coach and he makes decisions on the pitch and in training.
Guintoli also but things guintoli is to blame for are leaving signings very late like Koop and Nico. Treatment of Danilo and Chiesa and woj.
But motta wanted Koop. If he didn’t want him
He could have told guintoli. After all no director wants to waste 60m and months chasing a player if the coach doesn’t know how to use him.
Motta played this weird system of using fullbacks as cms and then playing Koop as a winger. No one told him to do that. No one told him to leave subs until minute 79 when chasing games. He can’t come and say management told him that. He’s the coach and he makes decisions on the pitch and in training.
His stupid decisions speak for themselves. Maybe it’s lack of experience or maybe just stubbornness but my point still stands.
He’s our 4th coach in the last 5-6 years? And probably going for a 5th next season. I mean, is there any doubt there’s something rotten in the way this club is being run?
Not to mention JJ medical aka butchery academy working wonders.
He’s our 4th coach in the last 5-6 years? And probably going for a 5th next season. I mean, is there any doubt there’s something rotten in the way this club is being run?
Not to mention JJ medical aka butchery academy working wonders.
it's hindsight now to say this now though. if we look at it without bias, this would be my take:
after allegri was fired sarri should have been given at least another season to see if his ideas worked. team just won scudetto after all. but firing him then hiring a new guy like pirlo was never going to work. it was the right idea to let pirlo go. i think we all agree pirlo needed to go.
but how was anyone to know allegri wouldn't work? after all he didn't manage another club after leaving juve so no way to know he was going to play terrorist football. sure he was getting stale by end of his first stay here, but no one expected the bland soulless football he played for 3 seasons. end of day management went back to a proven coach and it didn't work. these things happen to any club so i can't blame management there. what we can blame them for is giving him a long term expensive contract and sticking with him for long time.
even motta i understand why club went for him even if i myself disagree with going for one season wonder coaches. the right approach would have been getting conte since he was available , but i understand why club didn't go for him after the allegri experience. it was still a bigger chance of success with conte than a new coach like motta from track record only. after all guy proved 3 times to take mediocre teams and win titles.
but new coaches failing is something any club can go through. madrid kind of mirrored what current post 2019 juve went though back in mid 2000s. they fired capello even after he won la liga due to terrorist style fooball. hired shuster. shuster was not popular with media just like sarri. club fired shuster after winning la liga, just like sarri was fired. then two failed experiments in juande ramos and manuel pellegrini. despite numerous signings like pepe, ronaldo etc.
we can blame managmenet for things like keeping allegri and motta too long though. or lack of sponsor. or the treatment of dybala and danilo and chiesa, then signings players like di maria and pogba. but coaching imo it's not a juve thing where multiple coaches can fail in a row.
after allegri was fired sarri should have been given at least another season to see if his ideas worked. team just won scudetto after all. but firing him then hiring a new guy like pirlo was never going to work. it was the right idea to let pirlo go. i think we all agree pirlo needed to go.
but how was anyone to know allegri wouldn't work? after all he didn't manage another club after leaving juve so no way to know he was going to play terrorist football. sure he was getting stale by end of his first stay here, but no one expected the bland soulless football he played for 3 seasons. end of day management went back to a proven coach and it didn't work. these things happen to any club so i can't blame management there. what we can blame them for is giving him a long term expensive contract and sticking with him for long time.
even motta i understand why club went for him even if i myself disagree with going for one season wonder coaches. the right approach would have been getting conte since he was available , but i understand why club didn't go for him after the allegri experience. it was still a bigger chance of success with conte than a new coach like motta from track record only. after all guy proved 3 times to take mediocre teams and win titles.
but new coaches failing is something any club can go through. madrid kind of mirrored what current post 2019 juve went though back in mid 2000s. they fired capello even after he won la liga due to terrorist style fooball. hired shuster. shuster was not popular with media just like sarri. club fired shuster after winning la liga, just like sarri was fired. then two failed experiments in juande ramos and manuel pellegrini. despite numerous signings like pepe, ronaldo etc.
we can blame managmenet for things like keeping allegri and motta too long though. or lack of sponsor. or the treatment of dybala and danilo and chiesa, then signings players like di maria and pogba. but coaching imo it's not a juve thing where multiple coaches can fail in a row.
