Thiago "The Fired Fraud" Motta (244 Viewers)

[Lion]

so what do you do when we don't fight for the scudetto?

i mean bitching on a forum isn't too effective. do something meaningful buddy, show us the way

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they are late, i thought they'd start after the first draw

i do what i can. i haven't bought a single juve item since allegri got hired. i don't have subscription to support juve on tv or internet, and even when i watch highlights on serie a youtube i use adblocker. i have no desire to spend money on a juve match live either.

this is what i can do. this is what millions of fans can do and have been doing for years now. you think this doesn't work? then why did serie a sponsorship go down in money prize? why is juve struggling to find a sponsor on shirt?

cause and effect. make fun of it all you want, but then you guys who make fun of this cry about the club not being able to keep players cuz no money.

 

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[s4tch]

i do what i can. i haven't bought a single juve item since allegri got hired. i don't have subscription to support juve on tv or internet, and even when i watch highlights on serie a youtube i use adblocker. i have no desire to spend money on a juve match live either.

this is what i can do. this is what millions of fans can do and have been doing for years now. you think this doesn't work? then why did serie a sponsorship go down in money prize? why is juve struggling to find a sponsor on shirt?

cause and effect. make fun of it all you want, but then you guys who make fun of this cry about the club not being able to keep players cuz no money.

you're too passive bro, nobody hears your voice when you don't do the meow thing

club lost the revenue because of figc/uefa vendetta and because of years of incompetence. if anyone thought that it would be an overnight fix then they are naive as fuck

 

[campionesidd]

so what do you do when we don't fight for the scudetto?

i mean bitching on a forum isn't too effective. do something meaningful buddy, show us the way

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they are late, i thought they'd start after the first draw

He just wants to make everyone as miserable as he is.

 

[Siamak]

@Xperd stop making rational points! That shit don’t fly here

In all seriousness though, I always highlight how stats don’t tell the whole story but in this case it paints a pretty clear picture on where we are.

The very match Bremer got injured was the first time we conceded multiple goals in the season. Then just one clean sheet after that.

I think Motta had a solid foundation at the back but was still figuring out his best attacking options, once that crumbled he’s now left having to quickly find two solutions at once. Danilo has been terrible, our fullbacks aren’t really that special and neither Gatti or Kalulu can perform as well as they did partnering with Bremer.

I try to be fair. If this was Allegri I wouldn’t be bashing him either, it’s a tough spot to be at the moment with the tools he has. He’ll judged at the end of the season obviously but it’s too early now.

It takes a while for a coach to get the players needed to fit into his system.
We lost track of champion under Allegri and the wheels fell off the Juve train. It will take some time to get back on track and being competitive again.

 

[JCK]

“It’s not right that a young lad who scored two goals at San Siro should be left out, especially in a match that they had to win, because Inter won and Napoli also but Juve are slipping away. Honestly, (it was) an embarrassing match to watch at times,” Tacchinardi

So Tacchinardi is a member of Tuz according to you

 

[mjromeo81]

Is it just me or does it sound like this guy cant wait for the team to lose a few games in a row and be proven right?

Welcome to Tuz!

Have you had your balls cupped yet?

https://www.juventuz.com/threads/ne...and-get-your-balls-cupped-here.29111/page-256

 

[DeviAngel]

 

[Alin]

Klopp finished 8th with Pool in his first season

Pep with all the riches finished 4th with City in his first season

Arsenal were nowhere near title challengers when Arteta took over the club

It took time and money for these teams to become 'well drilled units'

We have changed almost our entire starting eleven and lost our best player for the season. It's literally 2.5 months of football.

We have survived 3 years of Allegro's terrorism. Surely we can afford to give some time and patience to the new coach.

What was the track record of Kloop or Guardiola prior to joining Liverpool and City? They had won multiple trophies prior and had proven at their previous clubs that they can build a winning team, hence why they’ve been awarded more time, even more so given the level of competition in the Premier League… and please, let’s not compare ourselves to Arsenal who’s main achievement is finally competing for something, basically being challengers and still bottling it over and over again despite major investments in reinforcing the squad, so hardly a benchmark.


Motta thus far has a wonder season at Bologna to show off with, no trophies yet to his name and hardly any guarantees that it will get better, inconsistencies are there for all to see, injuries are piling up and his rotation game seems just random and experimental, so i don’t know where all this blind confidence that it will surely get better is coming from.

Personally i will not be happy with scrapping our way into Top 4, enough with the transition, either we challenge or we getting nowhere once again, but maybe that’s just me.

 

[ilmetronome]

What was the track record of Kloop or Guardiola prior to joining Liverpool and City? They had won multiple trophies prior and had proven at their previous clubs that they can build a winning team, hence why they’ve been awarded more time, even more so given the level of competition in the Premier League… and please, let’s not compare ourselves to Arsenal who’s main achievement is finally competing for something, basically being challengers and still bottling it over and over again despite major investments in reinforcing the squad, so hardly a benchmark.


Motta thus far has a wonder season at Bologna to show off with, no trophies yet to his name and hardly any guarantees that it will get better, inconsistencies are there for all to see, injuries are piling up and his rotation game seems just random and experimental, so i don’t know where all this blind confidence that it will surely get better is coming from.

Personally i will not be happy with scrapping our way into Top 4, enough with the transition, either we challenge or we getting nowhere once again, but maybe that’s just me.

His Bologna side get better in second season. In first season his team are mediocre. Even get trashed by inter 1-5 in a match. Following season his team eliminated Inter in Coppa and qualified for champions league.
If we follow your argument, only reputable coach should manage Juve, and be patient with the progress, which will cost us more money.
I wouldn't even take conte as instant solution after last disaster season. He will only last 2-3 season and spend much money in mercato, and after that he became asshole again and we need to hire another coach, and once again no guarantee that new coaches want to use his squad. Besides that, Juve isn't really suit for bentornato moment.

 

[Alin]

His Bologna side get better in second season. In first season his team are mediocre. Even get trashed by inter 1-5 in a match. Following season his team eliminated Inter in Coppa and qualified for champions league.
If we follow your argument, only reputable coach should manage Juve, and be patient with the progress, which will cost us more money.
I wouldn't even take conte as instant solution after last disaster season. He will only last 2-3 season and spend much money in mercato, and after that he became asshole again and we need to hire another coach, and once again no guarantee that new coaches want to use his squad. Besides that, Juve isn't really suit for bentornato moment.

Most of the points you are making are reasonable, and we are not in a disagreement, but then again nobody said anything about not being patient, nor did i expect us to be an well oiled machine right away, however ultimately he needs to deliver results and a style of play that doesn’t make us look outsmarted by the Stuttgart’s and Parma’s.… usually in this kind of environment it’s a win now or perhaps only narrowly miss out on major silverware type of scenario, otherwise it’s just another transition year after another which is not acceptable, also i’d add that what he did at Bologna was exceptional in his second year but it still doesn’t mean it will translate into silverware on the long run here, for all we know he might not be able to keep us more consistent than what his previous sides have been, hence why i am not as confident as others, although i do still believe he can improve and hope he gets more time to see if there will be any real progress throughout this season.

 

[BetterCallSaul]

Yeah wow great...and then later we got 3 wins in 3-4 months with Al-Legri

How can you still post shit like this with the terrorist? Were you dropped on the head as a kid or what?

 

[campionesidd]

Now do Allegri’s first season after he came back.

 

[Adrian]

If you were told motta would start the season and early on lose bremer for the rest of the campaign and have many new players injured within the first 3 months....would you have expected better results than what we have now?

I am by no means defending what he has our team dishing out each game but he has not had a chance to make this team gel and we have no idea right now on what the potential heights may be.

Why this club struggles year on year to keep the majority of players fit and healthy each season blows my mind.

 

[JCK]

If you were told motta would start the season and early on lose bremer for the rest of the campaign and have many new players injured within the first 3 months....would you have expected better results than what we have now?

I am by no means defending what he has our team dishing out each game but he has not had a chance to make this team gel and we have no idea right now on what the potential heights may be.

Why this club struggles year on year to keep the majority of players fit and healthy each season blows my mind.

Do you want a hint?

 

[rainhard]

He benched Yildiz against Inter and Parma, put Weah to drain the right back stamina, against Inter it's worked

Now against Udine he put Weah on the right to vs sprint with their left side defenders, and put Conceicao to surprise them in 2nd half

It is either against tired defenders, or if the coach sub in, it will be against weaker defenders

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[Xperd]

Shades of jihadball today. That really scares me.

 

[mondo1]

Shades of jihadball today. That really scares me.

Team looked like last year for most parts….. some glimpses of hope but overall meh


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[Vlad]

Al-legri 2.0 in making jk, an okay game, needed this win badly so lets build on this and start some winning streak.

 

[mondo1]

Al-legri 2.0 in making jk, an okay game, needed this win badly so lets build on this and start some winning streak.

Energy saving mode 2.0 or is it 3.0?


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[B3N]

Shades of jihadball today. That really scares me.

Second half? Nah this place is infecting you. Beliebe. Besides we can't 100mph every match with so many games but difference imo to total jihad we started on first gear and got the job done.