Thiago "The Fired Fraud" Motta (239 Viewers)

[Amer]

So this squad is apparently capable of comfortably winning against Guardiola’s ManCity while also even keeping a clean sheet to show for it but then we are supposed to believe that this same squad is somehow not good enough to compete or challenge for the Scudetto in the mighty Serie Ass because transition and top4 as the only realistic objective.

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Just another fresh perspective to take into consideration for both throaters and haters alike.

And spammers too. Those mofos are incorrigible!

 

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[Robee]

So this squad is apparently capable of comfortably winning against Guardiola’s ManCity while also even keeping a clean sheet to show for it but then we are supposed to believe that this same squad is somehow not good enough to compete or challenge for the Scudetto in the mighty Serie Ass because transition and top4 as the only realistic objective.

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Just another fresh perspective to take into consideration for both throaters and haters alike.

Quite easy 'tho; the squad is not wide enough for a full season with injury problems etc. It was built late, has a completely new style of play (yesterday we played Allegri style) combined with many young and therefor usually inconsistent players but it has more than enough quality to build upon in the long run. We may expect and ask this team to do more when everyone returns.

 

[Alin]

It is ultimately a mentality issue, we don’t need to limit ourselves and be content with just reaching top 4 by making defeatist statements this soon into the season, looking at the points difference in the league we are very much still in the race if we manage to string a series of wins together, this despite drawing more games than we’ve actually won thus far, which is also testament to the level and lack of consistency of those that we are atm competing with, therefore we should keep believing we can compete to the very end…

Basically with a decent winter mercatto along with less injuries for the second part of the season we could surely get back on track, just need to not give up and find some consistency to our performances.

 

[Xperd]

Allegro has never beaten Pep. Pretty much Pep's bitch.

Motta did it in his first attempt with an injury ravaged squad. Grande Motta!

 

[s4tch]

Allegro has never beaten Pep. Pretty much Pep's bitch.

Motta did it in his first attempt with an injury ravaged squad. Grande Motta!

too bad we didn't fire motta after the bologna disaster

imagine if the club was ran based on tuz polls. we'd be relegated in the first season

 

[Amer]

Jokes aside, his results and management of the team in general resembles Pirlo.

May I remind you of 3-0 Barca?

 

[s4tch]

This guy is the biggest fraud in Italian football since Gian Piero Ventura.

bump

 

[Amer]

That one also stands.

 

[s4tch]

you judged

 

[juve123]

That one also stands.

You compared Motta to Ventura?

 

[Robee]

It is ultimately a mentality issue, we don’t need to limit ourselves and be content with just reaching top 4 by making defeatist statements this soon into the season, looking at the points difference in the league we are very much still in the race if we manage to string a series of wins together, this despite drawing more games than we’ve actually won thus far, which is also testament to the level and lack of consistency of those that we are atm competing with, therefore we should keep believing we can compete to the very end…

Basically with a decent winter mercatto along with less injuries for the second part of the season we could surely get back on track, just need to not give up and find some consistency to our performances.

I would live and die by the 'vincere è l'unica cosa che conta' as a club but it's obvious the club is trying to change that as fans don't see it that way anymore. Factor in everything from the amount changes to squad strength, depth to experience of players and coaches etc. and it would be nothing short of a miracle to win the scudetto. That doesn't mean we're not trying our best and taking things game per game, no? I'd say many of our young players are already put under enough stress.

 

[Alin]

I would live and die by the 'vincere è l'unica cosa che conta' as a club but it's obvious the club is trying to change that as fans don't see it that way anymore. Factor in everything from the amount changes to squad strength, depth to experience of players and coaches etc. and it would be nothing short of a miracle to win the scudetto. That doesn't mean we're not trying our best and taking things game epr game, no?

As i said, if the mentality is to be just ‘good enough to finish 4th this season’ by supposedly trying our best and taking it game by game without demanding more of ourselves then the risk is to also be stuck for even longer in this ‘transition’ that could soon become the new norm, whereas another thing is if we set the mentality to not look for alibis and build on making an objective out of at the very least challenging for the Scudetto and instilling a winning mindset where we don’t impose limits to ourselves.

 

[Robee]

As i said, if the mentality is to be just ‘good enough to finish 4th this season’ by supposedly trying our best and taking it game by game without demanding more of ourselves then the risk is to also be stuck for even longer in this ‘transition’ that could soon become the new norm, whereas another thing is if we set the mentality to not look for alibis and build on making an objective out of at the very least challenging for the Scudetto and instilling a winning mindset where we don’t impose limits to ourselves.

There is a difference between things being said and being done... The goal is always to get the maximum we can at Juve. That is not being undone by some manager saying we need at least fourth place... Sporting goals live within the group of players of coaches and they grow during the season too but expectations shouldn't be put to high from the start on a young group.

It's not as if Yildiz will remember 'okay, Giunto said fourth will do', I won't be tracking back today. So who says we're not demanding more inside the club? Motta has literally been saying that with every point dropped...

Setting the bar at lifting the scudetto from the get-go however with this squad would be nonsense and completely unnecessary pressure at this point. Doesn't mean we're not trying to win them all, does it?

But the switch from winning at all costs as main focus to (winning with) style is something that can't happen without room for error.

 

[Amer]

You compared Motta to Ventura?

Yup.

 

[Alin]

There is a difference between things being said and being done... The goal is always to get the maximum we can at Juve. That is not being undone by some manager saying we need at least fourth place... Sporting goals live within the group of players of coaches and they grow during the season too but expectations shouldn't be put to high from the start on a young group.

It's not as if Yildiz will remember 'okay, Giunto said fourth will do', I won't be tracking back today. So who says we're not demanding more inside the club? Motta has literally been saying that with every point dropped...

Setting the bar at lifting the scudetto from the get-go however with this squad would be nonsense and completely unnecessary at this point. Doesn't mean we're not trying to win it all, that's just strange reasoning.

There is a difference between expecting to at the very least challenge for it and setting the objective to actually win it… and ofc it matters what the managers and directors say either publicly or to the squad, if they allow the team to get complacent by considering 4th place already as an achievement then that will be good enough in the mind of the players too, even if some might demand silently more of themselves.

 

[s4tch]

There is a difference between expecting to at the very least challenge for it and setting the objective to actually win it… and ofc it matters what the managers and directors say either publicly or to the squad, if they allow the team to get complacent by considering 4th place already as an achievement then that will be good enough in the mind of the players too, even if some might demand silently more of themselves.

don't fall for pr stuff dude

marotta said that napoli are the main title contenders. you can bet that he wouldn't settle for 2nd place. last year both allegri and giuntoli repeated that the target is cl qualification, even when the team was 2 points from top spot and the players hinted that we were aiming for the scudetto. there are plenty of similar examples

it's just talk

 

[CrimsonianKing]

you judged

If you judge you’re a snudge. It’s the rules

 

[Alin]

don't fall for pr stuff dude

marotta said that napoli are the main title contenders. you can bet that he wouldn't settle for 2nd place. last year both allegri and giuntoli repeated that the target is cl qualification, even when the team was 2 points from top spot and the players hinted that we were aiming for the scudetto. there are plenty of similar examples

it's just talk

I completely agree with the fact that in most instances there’s only a lot of noise without substance, and i do want to believe that internally they aim for more and are more demanding, but ultimately it’s just talk until we actually finish 4th and hear them speaking about how great of an achievement it was to reach our main ‘objective’.

 

[Xperd]

Jokes aside, his results and management of the team in general resembles Pirlo.

May I remind you of 3-0 Barca?

If you have to judge anyone, judge this guy

Badass_Colinet

Bidone of the season so far

 

[DAiDEViL]

If you have to judge anyone, judge this guy

Badass_Colinet

Bidone of the season so far

And not only that, he even managed to jinx Pintus.