The worst player of the season (1 Viewer)
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Molinaro is just poor on a whole. Every once in a while he will win the ball, but then he will make a bursting run up the field, using only his left foot because his right foot sux if u guys havent noticed. Then he will put in a horrible cross, which is easily intercepted by the opposition who swiftly counter down the right flank where molinaro is no longer in a defensive position (and thats only if the cross doesnt end up in row 20 of the stadium.)
Tiago has also been extremely dissapointing, really bad ill even accept, but in way less starts/games than molinaro he has at least done a couple decent things such as assist others. Whereas Molinaro considering he plays all the time, is just so poor in terms of his contribution rate.
Tiago has also been extremely dissapointing, really bad ill even accept, but in way less starts/games than molinaro he has at least done a couple decent things such as assist others. Whereas Molinaro considering he plays all the time, is just so poor in terms of his contribution rate.
Can anyone tell us which are those positive things Molinaro did??
Taking the ball from our box to the center of the field, from the advancing Buffon to the retreating Nedved is a positive contribution??
Since we all agree that he cant pass the ball and he cant cross or dribble, can someone point out which was his positive contribution??
I lost about 2-3 games during the entire season, including the pre-season games where Almiron was apparently our most successful transfer. And yet, there are only a couple of positive moments i remember from Molinaro, a long shoot that somehow became an assist-cross and 2-3 more matches when he had an overall great game!
But ffs, he played more minutes than most of our players, it is only a normal thing that he has more attempted passes, defenders have the option to pass both to midfieldrs and forwards, not to mention other defenders and the keeper. And they have less pressure to do that than the other players, playing deep in the enemy territory, esp the ones playing wide!
But Molinaro again manages to ruin it and he cant even the deliver the most simple things. We dont need any statistics to tell us, but losing the ball at the beginning of our creative chance without any particular reason/pressure is unacceptable!!
A winger has to face opposition, but a fullback doesnt, so even if he had the same %, it would again be unacceptable!
Having less fouls only shows that he doesnt participate to our defensive play either, its not like he deposes any player who decides to run down our left flank, he is never there to stop any of their penetrations or crosses, our left flank is always exposed to attacks! The defenders are supposed to become physical and sometimes tactical fouls is their job! They are supposed to do anything to keep away opposition.
Molinaro cant even deliver the small things right and he got more chances than everybody else to do that. Which exactly are the positive things he contributed?? And more important, which was the % of those things??
Who trust Molinaro offensively??
Who trust Molinaro defensively???????
Which player Molinaro would deposes?? Can anyone name, just one??
Nocerino would, at least, hand half of the serie A midfielders's balls, on a plate !!
How in the hell Molinaro helps our team??? Running up and down, without any particular reason, is helping the team??
What does Molinaro offers defensively or offensively??
Taking the ball from our box to the center of the field, from the advancing Buffon to the retreating Nedved is a positive contribution??
Since we all agree that he cant pass the ball and he cant cross or dribble, can someone point out which was his positive contribution??
I lost about 2-3 games during the entire season, including the pre-season games where Almiron was apparently our most successful transfer. And yet, there are only a couple of positive moments i remember from Molinaro, a long shoot that somehow became an assist-cross and 2-3 more matches when he had an overall great game!
But ffs, he played more minutes than most of our players, it is only a normal thing that he has more attempted passes, defenders have the option to pass both to midfieldrs and forwards, not to mention other defenders and the keeper. And they have less pressure to do that than the other players, playing deep in the enemy territory, esp the ones playing wide!
But Molinaro again manages to ruin it and he cant even the deliver the most simple things. We dont need any statistics to tell us, but losing the ball at the beginning of our creative chance without any particular reason/pressure is unacceptable!!
A winger has to face opposition, but a fullback doesnt, so even if he had the same %, it would again be unacceptable!
Having less fouls only shows that he doesnt participate to our defensive play either, its not like he deposes any player who decides to run down our left flank, he is never there to stop any of their penetrations or crosses, our left flank is always exposed to attacks! The defenders are supposed to become physical and sometimes tactical fouls is their job! They are supposed to do anything to keep away opposition.
Molinaro cant even deliver the small things right and he got more chances than everybody else to do that. Which exactly are the positive things he contributed?? And more important, which was the % of those things??
Who trust Molinaro offensively??
Who trust Molinaro defensively???????
Which player Molinaro would deposes?? Can anyone name, just one??
Nocerino would, at least, hand half of the serie A midfielders's balls, on a plate !!
How in the hell Molinaro helps our team??? Running up and down, without any particular reason, is helping the team??
What does Molinaro offers defensively or offensively??
they're both equal for me , as they had a similar amount of good games along with the disappointing overall outcome for the season.
The terrible aspect of their games was their skills, even though they were looking very good last year especially antonio as i predicted some very good things from him.
I guess if i had to keep one of them it would molinaro, although he was horrible at times he equaled them with some solid performances with nothing fancy ( he can do that because of his position mainly). On the other hand nocerino's performances from the end of last year till the end of season were nothing short of a disaster at times.
on a final note, almiron was worst than both of them. The guy didn't have any drive whatsoever for the team, didn't put quarter of any of the midfielders work rate and even his passing was not up to par.
The terrible aspect of their games was their skills, even though they were looking very good last year especially antonio as i predicted some very good things from him.
I guess if i had to keep one of them it would molinaro, although he was horrible at times he equaled them with some solid performances with nothing fancy ( he can do that because of his position mainly). On the other hand nocerino's performances from the end of last year till the end of season were nothing short of a disaster at times.
on a final note, almiron was worst than both of them. The guy didn't have any drive whatsoever for the team, didn't put quarter of any of the midfielders work rate and even his passing was not up to par.
Personally, I know Almiron could be good for us. He was great at Empoli, but his role here wasn't really defined by Ranieri. No idea why people would consider him the worst player of the season... I just think it's down to Ranieri not knowing how to use such a player, which we have seen before. Sergio was great at Empoli and I hardly buy this "oh he choked at a big club" crap. These people are professionals, you morons.
The positive, if we can call it a positive thing, is that with him we look like we have 12 players on the filed, not 11.
Ranieri and his assistants have big confidence in Molinaro and it's imo because of his enormous work rate. He's always, but really always, involved in attack and in defense. He runs more than the others and he allows our team to have all the defenders at the back when we're defending and 1 player more on the left side when we attack.
The problem here is that 2 of the 12 players are bad players
With such work rate, a player who can pass and cross well will be a world class full back. I guess Ranieri expected Molinaro to improve his crossing and passing in time. He didn't do that and now a choice will have to be made. We'll have to either replace him or give him one more season to improve.
This is true, however Molinaro was involved in our attacks all the time and he had to face opposition all the time.
This is not true.
It may be true for the opening matches but not for 3/4 of the season. He participated a lot in our defensive play and he was good most of the time. Our best defender in some matches.
Cronios, there must be smthg this guy is doing right.
We can question Ranieri's decissions but i'd expect a man of his experience in football to find a solution for Molinaro if the guy is as bad as this forum makes him look.
Ranieri changed all the things that didn't work. He replaced off-form Del Piero with Iaquinta, he replaced Almiron and Tiago who didn't play well, he replaced Nocerino with Sissoko, he replaced the awfull Criscito with Legrotagllie.
The only one he never touched was Molinaro. Why ?
He could have bought a LB in winter mercato and later he could have replaced him with Grygera.
Why didn't the man who changed everything that wasn't working replace Molinaro ?
Ranieri and his assistants have big confidence in Molinaro and it's imo because of his enormous work rate. He's always, but really always, involved in attack and in defense. He runs more than the others and he allows our team to have all the defenders at the back when we're defending and 1 player more on the left side when we attack.
The problem here is that 2 of the 12 players are bad players
With such work rate, a player who can pass and cross well will be a world class full back. I guess Ranieri expected Molinaro to improve his crossing and passing in time. He didn't do that and now a choice will have to be made. We'll have to either replace him or give him one more season to improve.
This is true, however Molinaro was involved in our attacks all the time and he had to face opposition all the time.
This is not true.
It may be true for the opening matches but not for 3/4 of the season. He participated a lot in our defensive play and he was good most of the time. Our best defender in some matches.
Cronios, there must be smthg this guy is doing right.
We can question Ranieri's decissions but i'd expect a man of his experience in football to find a solution for Molinaro if the guy is as bad as this forum makes him look.
Ranieri changed all the things that didn't work. He replaced off-form Del Piero with Iaquinta, he replaced Almiron and Tiago who didn't play well, he replaced Nocerino with Sissoko, he replaced the awfull Criscito with Legrotagllie.
The only one he never touched was Molinaro. Why ?
He could have bought a LB in winter mercato and later he could have replaced him with Grygera.
Why didn't the man who changed everything that wasn't working replace Molinaro ?
yeah, Molinaro is involved in defense and attack, doesn't mean he is helping both, when he involves in attack, he ruins the attack most of the time, and when he is on defense, he isn't any special, he got caught many times out of the position, sure he is good when it comes to tackling or stealing balls, and also he is fast when he runs, but his brains doesn't work that fast, he thinks slow and sometimes he doesn't even think, he just runs with the ball and stops or wastes it, just get rid of that clown already..
The positive, if we can call it a positive thing, is that with him we look like we have 12 players on the filed, not 11.
Ranieri and his assistants have big confidence in Molinaro and it's imo because of his enormous work rate. He's always, but really always, involved in attack and in defense. He runs more than the others and he allows our team to have all the defenders at the back when we're defending and 1 player more on the left side when we attack.
The problem here is that 2 of the 12 players are bad players
With such work rate, a player who can pass and cross well will be a world class full back. I guess Ranieri expected Molinaro to improve his crossing and passing in time. He didn't do that and now a choice will have to be made. We'll have to either replace him or give him one more season to improve.
This is true, however Molinaro was involved in our attacks all the time and he had to face opposition all the time.
This is not true.
It may be true for the opening matches but not for 3/4 of the season. He participated a lot in our defensive play and he was good most of the time. Our best defender in some matches.
Ranieri and his assistants have big confidence in Molinaro and it's imo because of his enormous work rate. He's always, but really always, involved in attack and in defense. He runs more than the others and he allows our team to have all the defenders at the back when we're defending and 1 player more on the left side when we attack.
The problem here is that 2 of the 12 players are bad players
With such work rate, a player who can pass and cross well will be a world class full back. I guess Ranieri expected Molinaro to improve his crossing and passing in time. He didn't do that and now a choice will have to be made. We'll have to either replace him or give him one more season to improve.
This is true, however Molinaro was involved in our attacks all the time and he had to face opposition all the time.
This is not true.
It may be true for the opening matches but not for 3/4 of the season. He participated a lot in our defensive play and he was good most of the time. Our best defender in some matches.
, my favorite and traditional debater on the Molinaro issue:-I actually see it as the other way around, when we use Molinaro it actually feels like we have one player less on the field, not 1 extra player. Molinaro runs up and down but he doesnt implicates, at least positive to our play, he works a lot yes, but not for us, but for himself, he help us, as much as the linesmen who also run up and down beside him watching the match along with him
Explain here, how does his presence helps our team, in what way does he helps our team?? Offensively or defensively?? This guy is useless and we all know it!!
-As for the CR argument, i think we will find out the answer soon...
First of all, i dont trust CR's judgement 100%, he has done many tactical mistakes and he keeps repeating them, that sure shows that he is certainly not perfect, or even come close to that.
We have seen many coaches having an inexplicable affection towards some certain players that worth almost nothing on the pitch, that wont be the first time, every coach sympathises a player without any particular reason and hates another also without a particular reason. I dont know what CR sees on Molinaro, he might be sexual attracted to him
Molinaro is IMO, one of the greatest mistakes CR has done thought the entire season and it is not the only, we didnt bought any defender at the winter transfer, despite our defense sucks as a whole, that doesnt prove that our whole defense was decent, it only proves that our owners had no intention to invest more money to strengthen our team, for their very own reasons. And CR is only a pawn, brought in the team to comply with their will without embarrashing them and asking for better players and more money!!
This is a reality we face in every sector of team, not only the Molinaro case!!
-Another logic answer would be that CR and our owners already have the replacement of Molinaro in their minds and that would explain why they wouldnt invest more money now.
Maybe they expect new CBs and the re-establishment of Chiellini as our LB starter.
Or they had in mind a free agent, or a very free quality player, would become available this year, someone like Grosso, or a youngster like De Ceglie to return.
And they chose not invest then!
Or to completely ignore our defensive problems, like Real does and focus our budget on the offense,buying many quality forwards like Amauri, in an attempt to become a most offensive team and create more spectacle, for the shake of "bringing the fans back", priority our board set!!
Our managers with their actions so far have already proved their incompetence, so i dont expect a logic and efficient plan from them anymore
That argument will certainly not convince me or any other Juve fan who carefully looks what happens in our team the last years, i wonder if you used it, only to win this argument, or you do actually trust our managers and their decisions...
I expect to see more arguments from you to properly respond