The Wish List and General Discussion Thread (68 Viewers)

[Juventino[RUS]]

We need this and that!! We need a F-ing sugar daddy!! We don't have money! It's not right to blame Marotta for everything. He is not perfect I know! But all this shit is the Elkann's fault! We need money!!!!!!!

we spended a lof of money in last 4 season, far enoguh to win this fuckin scudetto, but.......

 

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[CalcioJuventus]

We need this and that!! We need a F-ing sugar daddy!! We don't have money! It's not right to blame Marotta for everything. He is not perfect I know! But all this shit is the Elkann's fault! We need money!!!!!!!

To be fair in the last few years we have spent a shit load of money. Look at the money we spent on Krasic, Melo, Sissoko, Poulsen, Iaquinta, Bonucci, Amauri, Andrade, Martinez, Tiago, Almiron, Diego. Thats alot of money man.

 

[Orgut]

Getting 80M for spending is useless if we don`t have a GM that knows how to spend it
If we only had someone who knows football like Moggi we have been challenging for the title now and not challenging for 4th spot

 

[CalcioJuventus]

I think Marotta has done some good things. He kept Melo, brought in Quag, Aquilani, Krasic and Bonucci.

Now if he can bring in 4 more players as good as those guys then we will be looking at a good team. His signing of Toni and Barzagli cost us almost nothing and were done for emergency. As gfor Motta, Pepe and MArtinez we only own Martinez and he has not proven himself because of injury. Also selling Amauri is easier said then done

 

[Gian]

Think Delneri is the one to blaim and not Marotta. This squad was flying high in second place before the x-mas, all players went to crap after that? Krasic looks dead tbh, Pepe has never added a lot of value to our squad, Aquilani looks like a ballerina some now and then, Marchisio isnt very effective on the wing, Grygera actually didnt fuck up in quite some time before he got injured at the Salzburg match. We look like tired like we are ending the season after being active in three championships.

A coach should enable his players to reach their full potential not play them out of position. So I'm simply saying what a guy here had in his signature.

Delneri is a huge mistake!

 

[CalcioJuventus]

Think Delneri is the one to blaim and not Marotta. This squad was flying high in second place before the x-mas, all players went to crap after that? Krasic looks dead tbh, Pepe has never added a lot of value to our squad, Aquilani looks like a ballerina some now and then, Marchisio isnt very effective on the wing, Grygera actually didnt fuck up in quite some time before he got injured at the Salzburg match. We look like tired like we are ending the season after being active in three championships.

A coach should enable his players to reach their full potential not play them out of position. So I'm simply saying what a guy here had in his signature.

Delneri is a huge mistake!

Injuries are to blame. If Quag, Martinez, De Ceglie, Iaquinta and Buffon were fully fit for the whole season we would be higher up in the table without a doubt.

 

[JuveJay]

Whats it with the Marotta love here, I mean there's no reason to like or dislike him at this point. And how do you come up with 16 million? If you look at what he spended in terms of installments/loan paid upfronts then the number is 22M and if you look at it you look at the bigger picture then he spended 50 or 60M

12M - Martinez
10M - Pepe
15M - Quag
15M - Krasic
(16M - Aquilani)

Erm yeah, sales?

 

[Gian]

Diego > 15M gained
Poulsen > 5m gained

- Bonucci > 15M spended, wasnt included in that list.
---+
5M

 

[chester]

Also, the amount we payed up front for the loan deals aren't in that list.

 

[j0ker]

He included them in the total.

Quag 4.5 + 10.5 = 15


sales

Criscito 6

 

[chester]

My mistake

 

[Salvo]

He didn't have much to spend at all, a lot of the deals were good. Give him some cash and see what he can do, look at the Krasic and Aquilani buys for example.

 

[RAMI-N]

Klose, Cisse and Samaras for Juve

http://www.football-italia.net/jan28i.html

 

[JuveJay]

Diego > 15M gained
Poulsen > 5m gained

- Bonucci > 15M spended, wasnt included in that list.
---+
5M

Do you really want me to post that concise in/out list again?

 

[Gian]

We can act like accountants and calculate every bit of it but my point was that it shouldn't be said Marotta spended the money the wisest. He valued Martinez at 12M and Pepe at 10M, well atleast he agreed with that. We spended 22M on our left wing, played two players out of position/wrong formation and on top we play our cm Marchisio there. Thats wasting money.

Pepe looks way better on the right, he needs to cut if he wants to cross on the left.
Martinez doesnt really fit in the 442 tbh

 

[j0ker]

He didn't do great but not bad at all. Apart from Motta who turned to be a disaster but still didn't cost us more than 500k, his other purchases turned to be good and some of them great.

We are still paying for Secco's mistakes.

 

[Alen]

I don't think there is an offer for Modric and Bale that would Redknapp take, no mather how worth it is. He is totaly in love with them!

On TV during some match in the weekend I heard some rumor that Real is offering 115m eur shocked in the summer for Bale+Modric.
It really sounds unbelievable but you could never know with Real.

 

[j0ker]

So Bale would take Di Maria's place who they just bought and is playing great?

I hate and envy them in the same time.

 

[Alen]

I checked that rumor again and it seems that it originated from some English source that was ridiculed here many times (some Daily Star or something with similar name). Then it was spread on the net by many other sites.

 

[Zacheryah]

Benzema doesn't have the Juve quality, but Adebayor does?

Offcourse abdebayor also doesnt have it, but he is a realistic loan target, while madrid will never loan out benzema without the huge option to buy , full wage taken and a nice fee for the wage.
if we could loan him for the season without that, i'd be totally for it

Whats it with the Marotta love here, I mean there's no reason to like or dislike him at this point. And how do you come up with 16 million? If you look at what he spended in terms of installments/loan paid upfronts then the number is 22M and if you look at it you look at the bigger picture then he spended 50 or 60M

12M - Martinez
10M - Pepe
15M - Quag
15M - Krasic
(16M - Aquilani)

Actually marotta had no budged at all. He managed to get rid of a few players including diego to make enough room on wages that money from the global budged could be put into transfers.
that cash was used for the permanent deals of krasic and martinez, and for the up front loan deals for pepe quag motta and aquilani.

basically : WE SPEND NOTHING, because WE GOT NOTHING from the owners.
with no cash, marotta did terrific, and if we werent fucked on the 1 eu rule, or that shithead from udinese, we'd also have a quality striker.

it turned out diffrent

we spended a lof of money in last 4 season, far enoguh to win this fuckin scudetto, but.......

The past years, we had an incompetent board, not able to strike any decent deal, that got a trainer that didnt had the same idea about players and tactics.
That board bought alot of players, who are absolutely no juventus material, and let good opportunities pass by.
When they where under pressure, they spend big on melo and amauri, gave them high wages. Melo is on of the best defensive midfielders potentially, but a dm isnt worth 25 mil, and amauri was never worth his stupid wage and transfer fee
The last installment for amauri''s fee, was payed more recent then amauri's last goal for us, go figure.

we had a high wage bill, no championsleague, and no money, and alot of players without intention to play football(grosso for example)
Marotta cleaned up the wages mes, tried to clean up the squad without cash like i mentionned above. during the summer, i hope he does another krasic for the defence and perhaps a striker.