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It didn't go over my head,it was weak.You sure are criticizing the man like a sheep so the answer is irrelevant.
You're telling me that Russia & Turkey only enter competitions to make up the numbers?Just like Greece did at the euro's? Please every national association has its targets be it going past the group stages,the quarterfinals or even winning it but for you to suggest that's not intense pressure is laughable.Do you really think the turkish public would be all supportive if Hiddink doesn't meet certain expectations? Then again its only pressure if you country is capable of winning a major tournament.
I'll give you an example for instance my country's main followed sports are cricket & rugby yet we have a massive football following.Now because its not the number one sport of choice that means the pressure is not that intense?Thats why there's been over ten coaches over ten years,yeah the pressure is not intense.There are minnow african countries that stand no chance of winning anything or qualifying yet the coaches can't handle the pressure.Here we have ppl that don't have much in life & their only form of escape is watching the national team,so you tell me if thats not intense pressure as you put it.
Whats your point about him choosing Turkey instead of Juve? Chelsea were also in horrendous form under Scolari yet he came in & completely over turned their fortunes.So that argument goes right in the toilet.Now his objective with Russia was to qualify for the WC,right? He failed there right? Does that mean his reputation is shattered?I still can't believe how you expect me to believe that pressure from a club team is more intense than a national team,its really beyond me.If you coach a club team in spain,you're fan base doesn't consist of the entire country,whereas the national team IS the entire nation expecting results.
You're telling me that Russia & Turkey only enter competitions to make up the numbers?Just like Greece did at the euro's? Please every national association has its targets be it going past the group stages,the quarterfinals or even winning it but for you to suggest that's not intense pressure is laughable.Do you really think the turkish public would be all supportive if Hiddink doesn't meet certain expectations? Then again its only pressure if you country is capable of winning a major tournament.
I'll give you an example for instance my country's main followed sports are cricket & rugby yet we have a massive football following.Now because its not the number one sport of choice that means the pressure is not that intense?Thats why there's been over ten coaches over ten years,yeah the pressure is not intense.There are minnow african countries that stand no chance of winning anything or qualifying yet the coaches can't handle the pressure.Here we have ppl that don't have much in life & their only form of escape is watching the national team,so you tell me if thats not intense pressure as you put it.
Whats your point about him choosing Turkey instead of Juve? Chelsea were also in horrendous form under Scolari yet he came in & completely over turned their fortunes.So that argument goes right in the toilet.Now his objective with Russia was to qualify for the WC,right? He failed there right? Does that mean his reputation is shattered?I still can't believe how you expect me to believe that pressure from a club team is more intense than a national team,its really beyond me.If you coach a club team in spain,you're fan base doesn't consist of the entire country,whereas the national team IS the entire nation expecting results.
You are talking about coaches with reputations not comparable to Hiddink's. Hiddink can take any job he wants, those guys might be out of work for months or years afterwards. The pressure for them is not the same as for Hiddink, do you still not get my point? He is in a very strong financial position and has a great standing. So he chooses Turkey rather than a club side, that's ok. My point is still the same, he took the easier option, and for more money. Good for him.
I already answered that twice, he had another job in 5 minutes, make your own mind up.
No it isn't. And even if it was, what the hell does that matter? Are national fans better or more hardcore supporters than club ones? I think you'll find for many countries including England, Italy and Spain (look at Barca, Madrid and the regional politics) that is simply untrue, in fact the opposite.
Now let's see what Chelsea paid Golden Guus. €3m for four months work. We are led to believe Juve offered him between €3.5m and €5m a season. Have a look around this forum if you want to see pressure on a coach. If you find the Hiddink thread you will see exactly what I am talking about in terms of money, with several members pointing it out.
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]'Zac could put us in difficulty'[/FONT]
Zaccheroni replaced Ciro Ferrara last month, signing a four-month contract with the objective of ensuring Juventus qualify for the Champions League.
The Bianconeri are undefeated in his first three games in charge and travel to Amsterdam tonight where they face Ajax in the Europa League.
“Everything has yet to be decided,” Bettega told Sky Sport Italia. “But we will be happy if Zac puts us in difficulty.”
Turning his attention to this evening's match, he said: “The Europa League is a prestigious competition and an important test.
“The value of the team is superior to its current condition,” he concluded. [/FONT]
Thursday 18 February, 2010
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]Roberto Bettega says Juventus have yet to decide upon a Coach for next year, but thinks Alberto Zaccheroni might make their decision more difficult.Zaccheroni replaced Ciro Ferrara last month, signing a four-month contract with the objective of ensuring Juventus qualify for the Champions League.
The Bianconeri are undefeated in his first three games in charge and travel to Amsterdam tonight where they face Ajax in the Europa League.
“Everything has yet to be decided,” Bettega told Sky Sport Italia. “But we will be happy if Zac puts us in difficulty.”
Turning his attention to this evening's match, he said: “The Europa League is a prestigious competition and an important test.
“The value of the team is superior to its current condition,” he concluded. [/FONT]
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