And Tiago with being blindfolded and whipped after we buy 50% of him back from Atletico on August 31st. Yup, seen it all in a dream the other night.
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This is depresing situation, I even have lost the will to look, who will be our coach next season, right now I'm thinking whatever will be will be, because I don't want to be dissapointed again, because there is a big possability that if nothing changes at the management level we will se something similar - cheap and short term.
Get off your high horse & stop acting like you would turn down a shit load of cash.
What are you on about space & astronauts?
In general?
HELLO,being a national team coach is by far more stressful,you represent a nation as a whole not one particular city!No exceptions every nation has high expectations for their national team & most get the chop for the smallest things.
National coaches don't get to bond with their players on a regualr basis & they have to focus on more then just a squad & up & coming youth players.There's more scouting to be done,more homework to be done & you don't exactly get a lot of time to prepare or get the team to gel.
You lot sound like experts that have completed uefa coaching badges & gained much needed experience by playing fm.
What are you on about space & astronauts?
In general?
HELLO,being a national team coach is by far more stressful,you represent a nation as a whole not one particular city!No exceptions every nation has high expectations for their national team & most get the chop for the smallest things.
National coaches don't get to bond with their players on a regualr basis & they have to focus on more then just a squad & up & coming youth players.There's more scouting to be done,more homework to be done & you don't exactly get a lot of time to prepare or get the team to gel.
You lot sound like experts that have completed uefa coaching badges & gained much needed experience by playing fm.
Well its true that not people alwasy go for the best paid jobs. There are more to it that money I think. Particulary in our case it certainly isn't all about money, we are not that atractive to coach, we are a big risk to take for a manager, since managers need consider their reputation.
At least that is my oppinion
At least that is my oppinion
Yeah here we go again, I guess my analogy went over your head but anyway. What am I supposed to answer, like a sheep? Yes Byrone, I would take the most money and run, even it is Tahiti or Bhutan, you tell me?
Major clubs have just as much if not more pressure on them from fans than many national sides, in the case of Madrid, Juventus, Man Utd etc we are talking hundreds of millions of people. I would say only a top national side has more pressure. Hiddink taking jobs like Turkey or Russia is not intense pressure, they are nations expected to qualify but not win the World Cup. So guess what, Russia didn't qualify and out he goes, laughing to the bank. Next up, Turkey, €6m, thank you very much. He will get other jobs easily because of his reputation, as long as he doesn't completely flop. He hasn't because he is a good coach. So why wasn't the money Juve offered him enough yet the money Turkey offered him was? The answer is that he would be coming into a shitstorm here, he gets offered more money to do an easier job, great for him. His reputation is not on the line coaching medium-good national teams.
Much easier than trying to work day in day out to win a league title. Talk of a 'whole nations' pressure is nonsense, as if a whole nation follows football. If he takes the Uzbekistan job like the other money grabber over there now does that mean he has pressure comparable to coaching Real Madrid or Man Utd?
More scouting to be done, yeah, watching football for 50% of your job, sounds tough. There are different challenges but workload is simply not the same, it's ridiculous to say it is. I would list all the things a club coach does but I'm sure you know that already. Jose Mourinho, as an example, stated that he didn't want to coach Portugal until he was older because he would miss the day to day routine of coaching a football club.
Anyway I think he will do well for Turkey, they have some strong players and are in a tough group for 2012 qualifying but can get through. If not, then he will get another job with as much money as he wants.
Major clubs have just as much if not more pressure on them from fans than many national sides, in the case of Madrid, Juventus, Man Utd etc we are talking hundreds of millions of people. I would say only a top national side has more pressure. Hiddink taking jobs like Turkey or Russia is not intense pressure, they are nations expected to qualify but not win the World Cup. So guess what, Russia didn't qualify and out he goes, laughing to the bank. Next up, Turkey, €6m, thank you very much. He will get other jobs easily because of his reputation, as long as he doesn't completely flop. He hasn't because he is a good coach. So why wasn't the money Juve offered him enough yet the money Turkey offered him was? The answer is that he would be coming into a shitstorm here, he gets offered more money to do an easier job, great for him. His reputation is not on the line coaching medium-good national teams.
Much easier than trying to work day in day out to win a league title. Talk of a 'whole nations' pressure is nonsense, as if a whole nation follows football. If he takes the Uzbekistan job like the other money grabber over there now does that mean he has pressure comparable to coaching Real Madrid or Man Utd?
More scouting to be done, yeah, watching football for 50% of your job, sounds tough. There are different challenges but workload is simply not the same, it's ridiculous to say it is. I would list all the things a club coach does but I'm sure you know that already. Jose Mourinho, as an example, stated that he didn't want to coach Portugal until he was older because he would miss the day to day routine of coaching a football club.
Anyway I think he will do well for Turkey, they have some strong players and are in a tough group for 2012 qualifying but can get through. If not, then he will get another job with as much money as he wants.
Yeah here we go again, I guess my analogy went over your head but anyway. What am I supposed to answer, like a sheep? Yes Byrone, I would take the most money and run, even it is Tahiti or Bhutan, you tell me?
Major clubs have just as much if not more pressure on them from fans than many national sides, in the case of Madrid, Juventus, Man Utd etc we are talking hundreds of millions of people. I would say only a top national side has more pressure. Hiddink taking jobs like Turkey or Russia is not intense pressure, they are nations expected to qualify but not win the World Cup. So guess what, Russia didn't qualify and out he goes, laughing to the bank. Next up, Turkey, €6m, thank you very much. He will get other jobs easily because of his reputation, as long as he doesn't completely flop. He hasn't because he is a good coach. So why wasn't the money Juve offered him enough yet the money Turkey offered him was? The answer is that he would be coming into a shitstorm here, he gets offered more money to do an easier job, great for him. His reputation is not on the line coaching medium-good national teams.
Much easier than trying to work day in day out to win a league title. Talk of a 'whole nations' pressure is nonsense, as if a whole nation follows football. If he takes the Uzbekistan job like the other money grabber over there now does that mean he has pressure comparable to coaching Real Madrid or Man Utd?
More scouting to be done, yeah, watching football for 50% of your job, sounds tough. There are different challenges but workload is simply not the same, it's ridiculous to say it is. I would list all the things a club coach does but I'm sure you know that already. Jose Mourinho, as an example, stated that he didn't want to coach Portugal until he was older because he would miss the day to day routine of coaching a football club.
Anyway I think he will do well for Turkey, they have some strong players and are in a tough group for 2012 qualifying but can get through. If not, then he will get another job with as much money as he wants.
Major clubs have just as much if not more pressure on them from fans than many national sides, in the case of Madrid, Juventus, Man Utd etc we are talking hundreds of millions of people. I would say only a top national side has more pressure. Hiddink taking jobs like Turkey or Russia is not intense pressure, they are nations expected to qualify but not win the World Cup. So guess what, Russia didn't qualify and out he goes, laughing to the bank. Next up, Turkey, €6m, thank you very much. He will get other jobs easily because of his reputation, as long as he doesn't completely flop. He hasn't because he is a good coach. So why wasn't the money Juve offered him enough yet the money Turkey offered him was? The answer is that he would be coming into a shitstorm here, he gets offered more money to do an easier job, great for him. His reputation is not on the line coaching medium-good national teams.
Much easier than trying to work day in day out to win a league title. Talk of a 'whole nations' pressure is nonsense, as if a whole nation follows football. If he takes the Uzbekistan job like the other money grabber over there now does that mean he has pressure comparable to coaching Real Madrid or Man Utd?
More scouting to be done, yeah, watching football for 50% of your job, sounds tough. There are different challenges but workload is simply not the same, it's ridiculous to say it is. I would list all the things a club coach does but I'm sure you know that already. Jose Mourinho, as an example, stated that he didn't want to coach Portugal until he was older because he would miss the day to day routine of coaching a football club.
Anyway I think he will do well for Turkey, they have some strong players and are in a tough group for 2012 qualifying but can get through. If not, then he will get another job with as much money as he wants.
You're telling me that Russia & Turkey only enter competitions to make up the numbers?Just like Greece did at the euro's? Please every national association has its targets be it going past the group stages,the quarterfinals or even winning it but for you to suggest that's not intense pressure is laughable.Do you really think the turkish public would be all supportive if Hiddink doesn't meet certain expectations? Then again its only pressure if you country is capable of winning a major tournament.
I'll give you an example for instance my country's main followed sports are cricket & rugby yet we have a massive football following.Now because its not the number one sport of choice that means the pressure is not that intense?Thats why there's been over ten coaches over ten years,yeah the pressure is not intense.There are minnow african countries that stand no chance of winning anything or qualifying yet the coaches can't handle the pressure.Here we have ppl that don't have much in life & their only form of escape is watching the national team,so you tell me if thats not intense pressure as you put it.
Whats your point about him choosing Turkey instead of Juve? Chelsea were also in horrendous form under Scolari yet he came in & completely over turned their fortunes.So that argument goes right in the toilet.Now his objective with Russia was to qualify for the WC,right? He failed there right? Does that mean his reputation is shattered?I still can't believe how you expect me to believe that pressure from a club team is more intense than a national team,its really beyond me.If you coach a club team in spain,you're fan base doesn't consist of the entire country,whereas the national team IS the entire nation expecting results.
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