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My dreams:
Starting LB: Benoît Trémoulinas 12M€ (a la Jorge Martínez)
Coentrão is too expensive. Think Di Maria/Ramires expensive: 20-25M€...
Sell Grosso!
4th CB: One of Diego Lugano / Salvatore Bocchetti and we'll be fine.
CM: Lucho González is one of the best registas I've seen. But he's now 29 and I doubt Marseille would sell him. I think Gago might turn out to be a Sneijder/Robben repeat. Lassana Diarra is a very good option as well, as he would be an improvement to what we currently have. But he's not a regista. I'd try to sell Sissoko (Bayern?) and get both. Preferably on loan.
I'm not convinced over Cristian Ledesma and he's about to turn 28.
Raul Meireles is Man Utd bound to replace Scholes and would probably be a Tiago déjà vu..
Any other realistic options?
Winger: Eljero Elia 15-16M€
I feel bad for Krasic. I like him. But we already have Martinez, Pepe and Lanzafame to cover the right wing. None of them are pure left wingers, so I'd prefer the Dutchman for the left side.
Sell Mauro!
Striker: Klaas-Jan Huntelaar 12M€ (a la Jorge Martínez. AGAIN!)
I've lost hope on Dzeko and Milan owes us for Storari (that's how they got € for Papastathopoulos). I've been following him ever since he signed for Ajax and I still have faith in his qualities as a poacher. He reminds me of Davids, and Juventus might just be the best club for him to express his true potential. I see him as an improvement over what we currently have and would sell one of Amauri/Iaquinta to get him. I'm sure he and Elia would develop a nice chemistry between them. Milan seem eager to sell him in order to buy other players, so it's the perfect time to snap The Hunter up
Also, if we still have money left, I'd sell both Grygera and Zebina and go for van der Wiel / Cassani. But that's a luxury at the moment..
GK: Buffon, Storari, Manninger
RB: Motta, Grygera
LB: Tremoulinas, De Ceglie
CB: Chiellini, Bonucci, Legrottaglie, Lugano/Bocchetti
RM: Lanzafame, Martinez
LM: Elia, Pepe
CM: Marchisio, Melo, Gago, Lass
SS: Diego, Del Piero
CF: Huntelaar, Trezeguet, Amauri/Iaquinta
This is the best looking (realistic..?) squad I can think of right now.
Starting LB: Benoît Trémoulinas 12M€ (a la Jorge Martínez)
Coentrão is too expensive. Think Di Maria/Ramires expensive: 20-25M€...
Sell Grosso!
4th CB: One of Diego Lugano / Salvatore Bocchetti and we'll be fine.
CM: Lucho González is one of the best registas I've seen. But he's now 29 and I doubt Marseille would sell him. I think Gago might turn out to be a Sneijder/Robben repeat. Lassana Diarra is a very good option as well, as he would be an improvement to what we currently have. But he's not a regista. I'd try to sell Sissoko (Bayern?) and get both. Preferably on loan.
I'm not convinced over Cristian Ledesma and he's about to turn 28.
Raul Meireles is Man Utd bound to replace Scholes and would probably be a Tiago déjà vu..
Any other realistic options?
Winger: Eljero Elia 15-16M€
I feel bad for Krasic. I like him. But we already have Martinez, Pepe and Lanzafame to cover the right wing. None of them are pure left wingers, so I'd prefer the Dutchman for the left side.
Sell Mauro!
Striker: Klaas-Jan Huntelaar 12M€ (a la Jorge Martínez. AGAIN!)
I've lost hope on Dzeko and Milan owes us for Storari (that's how they got € for Papastathopoulos). I've been following him ever since he signed for Ajax and I still have faith in his qualities as a poacher. He reminds me of Davids, and Juventus might just be the best club for him to express his true potential. I see him as an improvement over what we currently have and would sell one of Amauri/Iaquinta to get him. I'm sure he and Elia would develop a nice chemistry between them. Milan seem eager to sell him in order to buy other players, so it's the perfect time to snap The Hunter up
Also, if we still have money left, I'd sell both Grygera and Zebina and go for van der Wiel / Cassani. But that's a luxury at the moment..
GK: Buffon, Storari, Manninger
RB: Motta, Grygera
LB: Tremoulinas, De Ceglie
CB: Chiellini, Bonucci, Legrottaglie, Lugano/Bocchetti
RM: Lanzafame, Martinez
LM: Elia, Pepe
CM: Marchisio, Melo, Gago, Lass
SS: Diego, Del Piero
CF: Huntelaar, Trezeguet, Amauri/Iaquinta
This is the best looking (realistic..?) squad I can think of right now.
My dreams:
Starting LB: Benoît Trémoulinas 12M€ (a la Jorge Martínez)
Coentrão is too expensive. Think Di Maria/Ramires expensive: 20-25M€...
Sell Grosso!
4th CB: One of Diego Lugano / Salvatore Bocchetti and we'll be fine.
CM: Lucho González is one of the best registas I've seen. But he's now 29 and I doubt Marseille would sell him. I think Gago might turn out to be a Sneijder/Robben repeat. Lassana Diarra is a very good option as well, as he would be an improvement to what we currently have. But he's not a regista. I'd try to sell Sissoko (Bayern?) and get both. Preferably on loan.
I'm not convinced over Cristian Ledesma and he's about to turn 28.
Raul Meireles is Man Utd bound to replace Scholes and would probably be a Tiago déjà vu..
Any other realistic options?
Winger: Eljero Elia 15-16M€
I feel bad for Krasic. I like him. But we already have Martinez, Pepe and Lanzafame to cover the right wing. None of them are pure left wingers, so I'd prefer the Dutchman for the left side.
Sell Mauro!
Striker: Klaas-Jan Huntelaar 12M€ (a la Jorge Martínez. AGAIN!)
I've lost hope on Dzeko and Milan owes us for Storari (that's how they got € for Papastathopoulos). I've been following him ever since he signed for Ajax and I still have faith in his qualities as a poacher. He reminds me of Davids, and Juventus might just be the best club for him to express his true potential. I see him as an improvement over what we currently have and would sell one of Amauri/Iaquinta to get him. I'm sure he and Elia would develop a nice chemistry between them. Milan seem eager to sell him in order to buy other players, so it's the perfect time to snap The Hunter up
Also, if we still have money left, I'd sell both Grygera and Zebina and go for van der Wiel / Cassani. But that's a luxury at the moment..
GK: Buffon, Storari, Manninger
RB: Motta, Grygera
LB: Tremoulinas, De Ceglie
CB: Chiellini, Bonucci, Legrottaglie, Lugano/Bocchetti
RM: Lanzafame, Martinez
LM: Elia, Pepe
CM: Marchisio, Melo, Gago, Lass
SS: Diego, Del Piero
CF: Huntelaar, Trezeguet, Amauri/Iaquinta
This is the best looking (realistic..?) squad I can think of right now.
Starting LB: Benoît Trémoulinas 12M€ (a la Jorge Martínez)
Coentrão is too expensive. Think Di Maria/Ramires expensive: 20-25M€...
Sell Grosso!
4th CB: One of Diego Lugano / Salvatore Bocchetti and we'll be fine.
CM: Lucho González is one of the best registas I've seen. But he's now 29 and I doubt Marseille would sell him. I think Gago might turn out to be a Sneijder/Robben repeat. Lassana Diarra is a very good option as well, as he would be an improvement to what we currently have. But he's not a regista. I'd try to sell Sissoko (Bayern?) and get both. Preferably on loan.
I'm not convinced over Cristian Ledesma and he's about to turn 28.
Raul Meireles is Man Utd bound to replace Scholes and would probably be a Tiago déjà vu..
Any other realistic options?
Winger: Eljero Elia 15-16M€
I feel bad for Krasic. I like him. But we already have Martinez, Pepe and Lanzafame to cover the right wing. None of them are pure left wingers, so I'd prefer the Dutchman for the left side.
Sell Mauro!
Striker: Klaas-Jan Huntelaar 12M€ (a la Jorge Martínez. AGAIN!)
I've lost hope on Dzeko and Milan owes us for Storari (that's how they got € for Papastathopoulos). I've been following him ever since he signed for Ajax and I still have faith in his qualities as a poacher. He reminds me of Davids, and Juventus might just be the best club for him to express his true potential. I see him as an improvement over what we currently have and would sell one of Amauri/Iaquinta to get him. I'm sure he and Elia would develop a nice chemistry between them. Milan seem eager to sell him in order to buy other players, so it's the perfect time to snap The Hunter up
Also, if we still have money left, I'd sell both Grygera and Zebina and go for van der Wiel / Cassani. But that's a luxury at the moment..
GK: Buffon, Storari, Manninger
RB: Motta, Grygera
LB: Tremoulinas, De Ceglie
CB: Chiellini, Bonucci, Legrottaglie, Lugano/Bocchetti
RM: Lanzafame, Martinez
LM: Elia, Pepe
CM: Marchisio, Melo, Gago, Lass
SS: Diego, Del Piero
CF: Huntelaar, Trezeguet, Amauri/Iaquinta
This is the best looking (realistic..?) squad I can think of right now.
Settle down.
I was against Secco from day one because he was clearly not experienced enough to have the job. It was a mistake, one in which we should not have made again. In my view, Marotta had one good season with Samp in which they secured a CL spot in perhaps the weakest Serie A I've seen since I began following it after USA '94. Apart from that, I'm not particularly impressed.
And with regards to the transfer campaign thus far, I'm anything BUT impressed. We have not added any real quality, we made ridiculous loans and co-owns which I would oppose no matter who is in charge, and we are not making the correct player sales. I don't really care how much Poulsen's wages are (a player who is still useful, especially now that we have to BUY somebody else) when we can't even offload players who have little reason to remain at the club.
Sorry, but these deals cannot be changed. They have been completed. And as such, we can judge Marotta on them. That's just the way it goes.
As I've always said, if you are true to what you say, then if we signed Osama Bin Laden I better not see you criticizing Marotta until the window is over. This is a matter of principle.
Agreed for the most part.
I don't understand where folks get this notion that performances cannot be judged until after a lengthy, predetermined period of time. They certainly do not get it from the results-driven business world. They want to wait until the end of the transfer window to judge, yet the decisions already made are final -- there is no way we can opt out of buying Martinez now for 12M Euros. So what is the point in waiting?
Well, this question is quite easy to answer. They are inclined to wait because of hope and faith, two facets of Divine Grace that most of the time are based on nothing. The hope is that we will sign players to negate what is already done, like buying a Krasic and Benzema will make up for the poor moves we have already made. While the chance is there we will sign those players, it is not certain. Nothing is certain, even Diego remaining.
Those that live on hope and faith are able to access the situation, but they just do not want to, so they lie to themselves. It is a form of denial. The facts are there for anybody to see, and Marotta should be judged on them, no matter what the date is. Not judging him, or offering any critique, provides leeway for more foul ups. So while most live on hope, the real businessmen analyze the situation in real time because.... well... anything else is simply living in fairytale land.
In the long run, everyone shows their worth, don't they? But I don't think Pepe is worth 10M Euros, which is what he is currently valued at.
We don't need any more mediocre players. We have enough.
Actually, since DN and Marotta never said they wouldn't sell Diego, they probably have been contemplating offers.
So Martinez is new to Serie A? Was his former club FC Ulan-Bator? If so, then maybe yes, not too many channels have Mongolian league rights.
Come on, I'm tired of this stuff. He's been in Serie A for years, just like Marotta and Del Neri, yet the parroting is always, "haven't seen to judge."
Not everyone is simply a YouTube football fan.
Major problem. In this sort of scenario the price usually increases due to demand factors, as you very well know. Sort of like OpEx week.
From a no-hope, no BS perspective, this is spot on.
Of course it's freaking silly. But hey, this is Italy.
I was against Secco from day one because he was clearly not experienced enough to have the job. It was a mistake, one in which we should not have made again. In my view, Marotta had one good season with Samp in which they secured a CL spot in perhaps the weakest Serie A I've seen since I began following it after USA '94. Apart from that, I'm not particularly impressed.
And with regards to the transfer campaign thus far, I'm anything BUT impressed. We have not added any real quality, we made ridiculous loans and co-owns which I would oppose no matter who is in charge, and we are not making the correct player sales. I don't really care how much Poulsen's wages are (a player who is still useful, especially now that we have to BUY somebody else) when we can't even offload players who have little reason to remain at the club.
Sorry, but these deals cannot be changed. They have been completed. And as such, we can judge Marotta on them. That's just the way it goes.
As I've always said, if you are true to what you say, then if we signed Osama Bin Laden I better not see you criticizing Marotta until the window is over. This is a matter of principle.
Agreed for the most part.
I don't understand where folks get this notion that performances cannot be judged until after a lengthy, predetermined period of time. They certainly do not get it from the results-driven business world. They want to wait until the end of the transfer window to judge, yet the decisions already made are final -- there is no way we can opt out of buying Martinez now for 12M Euros. So what is the point in waiting?
Well, this question is quite easy to answer. They are inclined to wait because of hope and faith, two facets of Divine Grace that most of the time are based on nothing. The hope is that we will sign players to negate what is already done, like buying a Krasic and Benzema will make up for the poor moves we have already made. While the chance is there we will sign those players, it is not certain. Nothing is certain, even Diego remaining.
Those that live on hope and faith are able to access the situation, but they just do not want to, so they lie to themselves. It is a form of denial. The facts are there for anybody to see, and Marotta should be judged on them, no matter what the date is. Not judging him, or offering any critique, provides leeway for more foul ups. So while most live on hope, the real businessmen analyze the situation in real time because.... well... anything else is simply living in fairytale land.
In the long run, everyone shows their worth, don't they? But I don't think Pepe is worth 10M Euros, which is what he is currently valued at.
We don't need any more mediocre players. We have enough.
Actually, since DN and Marotta never said they wouldn't sell Diego, they probably have been contemplating offers.
So Martinez is new to Serie A? Was his former club FC Ulan-Bator? If so, then maybe yes, not too many channels have Mongolian league rights.
Come on, I'm tired of this stuff. He's been in Serie A for years, just like Marotta and Del Neri, yet the parroting is always, "haven't seen to judge."
Not everyone is simply a YouTube football fan.
Major problem. In this sort of scenario the price usually increases due to demand factors, as you very well know. Sort of like OpEx week.
From a no-hope, no BS perspective, this is spot on.
Of course it's freaking silly. But hey, this is Italy.
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