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king Ale

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Sounds whacky, but does he know something we don't?


Ahmadinejad wants millions to quit Tehran over quake fears

(AFP) – 2 days ago

TEHRAN — At least five million Tehran residents need to relocate elsewhere because Iran's capital sits on several fault lines and is threatened by earthquakes, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Sunday.

"We cannot order people to evacuate the city... but provisions have to be made. At least five million should leave Tehran so it is less crowded and more manageable in case of an incident," Mehr news agency quoted him as saying.

Ahmadinejad said the government could offer "land, loans at four percent interest and substantial subsidies" in the provinces to encourage Tehran residents to leave the sprawling capital.

Tehran province has nearly 14 million inhabitants, eight million of whom live in the city which straddles several fault lines. Experts warn that a strong quake in Tehran could kill hundreds of thousands of people.

Ahmadinejad said that 67 percent of Iran's 74-million-strong population lives in urban areas.

"We cannot predict when an earthquake will happen. But if anything happens to Tehran province's 13.8 million residents how can we manage that?" he asked.

Iran is prone to frequent quakes, many of which have been devastating.

The worst in recent times hit the southern city of Bam in December 2003, killing 31,000 people -- about a quarter of the population -- and destroying its ancient mud-built citadel.

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I watched it on TV. He was clearly drunk.
 

Bozi

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i can teach u many thing from iran because i live in iran.i think you are supporting iran. isnt it?
you are clearly not Iranian

you would have said you live in Persia

imagine the outcry if the US or Israel attacked Persia? the world wouldbe outraged,but fuck it those Iranians are all crazy
 

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I don't care if Israel attacks Iran as long as the US isn't involved. I understand why they would want to, a nuclear Iran would seem a serious threat to them.
 
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    i can teach u many thing from iran because i live in iran.i think you are supporting iran. isnt it?
    Depends on what you mean by supporting Iran. I do not support Ahmedinijhad whatsoever but I do believe the US media is demonizing him to garner support for a possible war. It seems like the powers that be have their hearts set on attacking Iran, something that I don't want to see because it would be a disaster of epic proportions for all sorts of people around the world. So I do not trust what the US media tells us because well, they have lied to the public repeatedly, from WMD's in Iraq to the economy.
     
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    The media didn't lie, Rumsfeld and Cheney did, the media reported it.

    It's not like the media is some huge schemed corporation hell-bent on disinformation.

    They do the best they can and sometimes they fuck up, now whether those are intentional fuck ups or not, neither you nor I will know.
     
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    I don't care if Israel attacks Iran as long as the US isn't involved.
    Uhhh, the funny thing is, no matter who attacks Iran the US would suffer the consequences... BIG TIME.

    Iran has said they would shut down oil flow throughout the region, especially through the Strait of Hormuz, if they were attacked. Crude oil would immediately spike in price and who the hell knows what the limit would be. $100/barrel, $150/barrel, depends on how much damage is done and the scale of the attacks. We are talking about 2 million barrels of crude DAILY from this region that might not reach its destination, or it could also be destroyed by the Iranian military.

    Such oil prices would send the US economy into free fall mode. You don't want to see that.

    Not to mention the probable retaliatory attacks by groups like Hezbollah and Iranian factions ready to strike whenever the first attacks on the motherland occur. If you think that just because we didn't pull the trigger means we're safe you're not thinking through this clearly.
     
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    ßüякε;2445106 said:
    The media didn't lie, Rumsfeld and Cheney did, the media reported it.

    It's not like the media is some huge schemed corporation hell-bent on disinformation.

    They do the best they can and sometimes they fuck up, now whether those are intentional fuck ups or not, neither you nor I will know.
    Wrong.

    60 Minutes deliberately did not air the portion of the Ahmedinijhad interview in which he said he didn't hate the Jews and he does not want to harm Israel. That is intentional. And if you don't think so you're delusional.
     

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    Uhhh, the funny thing is, no matter who attacks Iran the US would suffer the consequences... BIG TIME.

    Iran has said they would shut down oil flow throughout the region, especially through the Strait of Hormuz, if they were attacked. Crude oil would immediately spike in price and who the hell knows what the limit would be. $100/barrel, $150/barrel, depends on how much damage is done and the scale of the attacks. We are talking about 2 million barrels of crude DAILY from this region that might not reach its destination, or it could also be destroyed by the Iranian military.

    Such oil prices would send the US economy into free fall mode. You don't want to see that.

    Not to mention the probable retaliatory attacks by groups like Hezbollah and Iranian factions ready to strike whenever the first attacks on the motherland occur. If you think that just because we didn't pull the trigger means we're safe you're not thinking through this clearly.
    But cutting off oil might be just a threat. If they were actually attacked by Israel wouldn't they be forced to continue sales to other nations in order to raise money for the war?
     
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    Wrong.

    60 Minutes deliberately did not air the portion of the Ahmedinijhad interview in which he said he didn't hate the Jews and he does not want to harm Israel. That is intentional. And if you don't think so you're delusional.
    Okay, that's not disinformation or lying, they just did not report the whole story.

    Also, that's one example of one news show.
     
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    But cutting off oil might be just a threat. If they were actually attacked by Israel wouldn't they be forced to continue sales to other nations in order to raise money for the war?
    Much of the oil heading through the Strait of Hormuz isn't from Iran.
     
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    ßüякε;2445113 said:
    Okay, that's not disinformation or lying, they just did not report the whole story.

    Also, that's one example of one news show.
    It is intentionally not reporting the whole story to sway opinion. It's no different than propaganda IMO. How one can defend it is simply absurd.

    MSNBC, FOX and CNN are all about selective reporting and propaganda, just from different sides of the spectrum. Why do you think O'Reilly has a job?
     
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    I'm not defending it, I'm defining it.

    You said the media, which is a pretty broad section of business, lies to people, lying states intent to report something falsely. In your example it is not lying.

    If I have 40 minutes of taped conversation with you where I ask you 30 questions but only 3 minutes are aired, that's not lying, it's fact, just not all the facts.
     

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    Wrong.

    60 Minutes deliberately did not air the portion of the Ahmedinijhad interview in which he said he didn't hate the Jews and he does not want to harm Israel. That is intentional. And if you don't think so you're delusional.
    But shows like 60 minutes try hard to make every interview as interesting and controversial as possible. If they show that portion than he looks less radical and crazy than most of their viewers are expecting and therefore less interesting. There is no doubt that he has been demonized by some but 60 minutes isn't a great example. I doubt that they are motivated by any real desire to discredit him, just that they figure having on some lunatic holocaust denier will draw more viewers. Our government has motive to demonize him but why would the media?
     

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